# NTSB FTW83LA436: Cessna 180K, N2841K, El Reno, OK, September 15, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 15, 1983, 13:30 local (18:30 UTC)
- Place: El Reno, OK
- Coordinates: 35.540409, -97.959793 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=35.5404&lon=-97.9598&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 21058
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW83LA436
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/21058/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW83LA436

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - flare/touchdown
  - flare - improper, copilot/second pilot (cause)
  - recovery from bounced landing - disregarded, pilot in command (cause)
  - remedial action - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
- Nose over, landing - roll

## Analysis

THE ACFT NOSED OVER WHILE LANDING. THE 2ND PLT WAS TRANSITIONING INTO TAILWHEEL ACFT. THE PIC DEMONSTRATED ONE LANDING AND THE 2ND PLT ATTEMPTED THE NEXT. THE ACFT BOUNCED AND THE PIC TOOK OVER THE CONTROLS TOO LATE TO PREVENT THE NOSE OVER.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N2841K (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 180K
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18053094
- Airframe hours: 610
- Engines: CONTINENTAL O-470-U 230 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Public aircraft, Part 91
- Operator: FAA Academy
- Registered owner: R. C. Vanhellen, Jr.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Flight plan: Company VFR
- Airport: F28, Mustang, runway 17L, 4,200 × 60 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 41; airline transport, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land, single-engine sea; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; flight hours: 7,528 total, 11 in this make and model, 7,375 as pilot in command, 34 in the last 90 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 250° at 15 knots, gusting 29
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 84 °F, dew point 64 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830915049429A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830915049429A), Sep 15, 1983: Cessna 180K, El Reno, OK, Substantial damage. Student bounced and lost control. CFI took over too late. Aircraft ran off end of runway and nosed over.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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