# NTSB FTW84LA052: Cessna A185E, N70083, El Paso, TX, November 12, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 12, 1983, 11:04 local (18:04 UTC)
- Place: El Paso, TX
- Coordinates: 31.760128, -106.480377 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=31.7601&lon=-106.4804&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 21203
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW84LA052
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/21203/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW84LA052

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - weather condition - crosswind (contributing factor)
  - directional control - not maintained, dual student (cause)
  - ground loop/swerve - not corrected, dual student (cause)
  - remedial action - delayed, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
- Main gear collapsed, landing - roll
  - landing gear,main gear - overload (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE ACFT GROUNDLOOPED DURING LANDING ON AN INSTRUCTIONAL FLT. THE LANDING WAS ON RWY 22 AND THE WIND WAS FROM 270 DEGREES AT 9 KTS. AFTER TOUCHDOWN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL WAS LOST AND THE ACFT VEERED TO THE RIGHT COLLAPSING THE LEFT MAINLANDING GEAR.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N70083](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N70083), registered now, S/N 18501950, built 1971 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA A185E
- Registry model: [Cessna A185E](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-a185e) (registry code 2072818) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental IO-520 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-io-520-series) (registry code 17032, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 185-01950
- Airframe hours: 2418
- Engines: CONTINENTAL IO-520-D 300 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Moody Bible Institute
- Registered owner: Moody Bible Institute
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, June 10, 1983, 57 hours before
- Departed: TUS, TUCSON, AZ
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: ELP, El Paso Intl., runway 22, 11,012 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 29; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: right; flight hours: 3,877 total, 195 in this make and model, 3,588 as pilot in command, 197 in the last 90 days, 6 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 270° at 9 knots
- Visibility: 40 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 70 °F, dew point 36 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19831112057119A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19831112057119A), Nov 12, 1983: Cessna A185E, El Paso, TX, Substantial damage. Student lost directional control on landing roll. Instructor tried to correct but failed. Side load folded gear.

## Other investigations on N70083 (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB WPR09CA252](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/WPR09CA252), May 18, 2009: Cessna 185E (N70083), Tacoma, WA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain directional control while landing with a crosswind.
- [NTSB IAD79DKW16](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD79DKW16), Jul 5, 1979: Cessna A185 (N70083), Elizabethton, TN, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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