# NTSB FTW84LA269: Piper J3C-65, N23413, San Antonio, TX, June 9, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: June 9, 1984, 17:20 local (22:20 UTC)
- Place: San Antonio, TX
- Coordinates: 29.540706, -98.41986 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=29.5407&lon=-98.4199&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 21365
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW84LA269
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/21365/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW84LA269

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight collision with object, approach - vfr pattern - final approach
  - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (contributing factor)
  - visual lookout - inadequate, dual student (contributing factor)
  - clearance - not maintained, dual student (cause)
  - object - wire,transmission(marked)
- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing
  - aircraft handling - uncontrolled, dual student
  - go-around - attempted, dual student (contributing factor)
  - go-around - not maintained, dual student (cause)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing
  - object - tree(s)

## Analysis

ACFT STRUCK A MARKED TRANSMISSION LINE ON FINAL APCH. PLT COULD NOT MAINTAIN FULL CONTROL OF ACFT ON LANDING. ACFT TOUCHED DOWN RT WING LOW AND A GO-AROUND WAS INITIATED.UPON APPLICATION OF PWR, ACFT WENT INTO TREES OFF RT SIDE OF AIRSTRIP. BOTH PLTS STATED NEITHER SAW THE WIRES WHICH WERE HIT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N23413](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N23413), registered now, S/N 3150, built 1939 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER J3C-65
- Registry model: [Piper J3C-65](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j3c-65) (registry code 7100510) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental A&C65 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (registry code 17003, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 3150
- Airframe hours: 2139
- Engines: CONTINENTAL A-65 65 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Alamo Liaison Group
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, January 8, 1984, 5 hours before
- Airport: Cannon Airport, runway 15, 2,900 ×  ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 45; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: front; flight hours: 1,260 total, 1 in this make and model, 25 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 130° at 14 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 3,500 ft broken
- Temperature: 90 °F, dew point 70 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19840609023259A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840609023259A), Jun 9, 1984: Piper J3C65, San Antonio, TX, Substantial damage. Struck powerlines on final. Touched down in wing low attitude. Applied power for goaround and flew into trees.

## Other investigations on N23413 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB CHI66F0424](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI66F0424), Aug 17, 1965: Piper J-3 (N23413), De Pere, WI, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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