# NTSB FTW84LA379: Piper PA-28-140, N6842J, San Antonio, TX, September 6, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: September 6, 1984, 06:50 local (11:50 UTC)
- Place: San Antonio, TX
- Coordinates: 29.410251, -98.629158 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=29.4103&lon=-98.6292&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 21454
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW84LA379
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/21454/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW84LA379

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(partial) - nonmechanical, takeoff - initial climb
  - fuel system,carburetor - ice (contributing factor)
  - carburetor heat - not used, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience in type of aircraft, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - carburetor icing conditions (contributing factor)
  - procedures/directives - not followed, pilot in command (cause)
- Forced landing, descent - emergency
- Gear collapsed, landing - roll
  - landing gear - overload
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - fence (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE ACFT DID NOT CLIMB ABOVE 25 TO 50 FT AGL AFTER TAKEOFF. THE PLT SAID 'THE ENGINE FELT LOADED DOWN.' THE STALL WARNING HORN SOUNDED AND THE PLT TOLD EVERYONE TO 'HANG ON' AS HE LOWERED THE NOSE OF THE ACFT. THE ACFT TOUCHED DOWN ABOUT 555 FT BEYOND THE RWYS END. THE EDGE OF A ROAD COLLAPSED THE ACFT LANDING GEAR AND THE ACFT CROSSED THE ROAD AND COLLIDED WITH FENCING. A SERIOUS INDUCTION ICING THREAT WAS PRESENT AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N6842J](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N6842J), registered now, S/N 28-7625245, built 1976 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-140
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-7625245
- Airframe hours: 1714
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-E3D 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Business, Part 91
- Operator: Ben Galindo
- Registered owner: William L. Manning
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal; Standard, Utility
- Last inspection: Annual, August 17, 1984
- Destination: MFE, MCALLEN, TX
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: T99, Westside, runway 11, 2,400 × 40 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 26; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 1,451 total, 16 in this make and model, 1,262 as pilot in command, 262 in the last 90 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Dawn
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 61 °F, dew point 54 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: SAT, 10 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19840906047359A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840906047359A), Sep 6, 1984: Piper PA28140, San Antonio, TX, Substantial damage. Aircraft was not developing power after takeoff and stalled touching down beyond runway crashing through 2 fences.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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