# NTSB FTW86LA122: Piper PA-24-260, N9165P, San Antonio, TX, July 7, 1986

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: July 7, 1986, 13:26 local (18:26 UTC)
- Place: San Antonio, TX
- Coordinates: 29.40917, -98.629577 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=29.4092&lon=-98.6296&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 22051
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=FTW86LA122
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/22051/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/FTW86LA122

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - weather condition - gusts (contributing factor)
  - compensation for wind conditions - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll

## Analysis

THE PILOT WAS CLEARED TO LAND ON RUNWAY 12L WHEN HE ENCOUNTERED WIND GUSTS ON TOUCHDOWN CAUSING THE AIRCRAFT TO VEER OFF THE RUNWAY INTO A GRASSY AREA.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N9165P](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N9165P-2017-04-13), registration cancelled 2017-04-13, S/N 24-4653, built 1967 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-24-260
- Registry model: [Piper PA-24-260](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-24-260) (registry code 7102406) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming TI0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-ti0-540-series) (registry code 41533, turbo-prop) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 24-4653
- Airframe hours: 1740
- Engines: LYCOMING O-540-E4A5 260 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Joe Kreutle
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, June 1, 1986
- Departed: EL PASO, TX
- Flight plan: IFR
- Airport: SAT, San Antonio International, runway 12L, 5,430 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 45; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 400 total, 100 in this make and model, 22 as pilot in command, 17 in the last 90 days, 5 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 170° at 10 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 90 °F, dew point 66 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: SAT

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19860707031079A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19860707031079A), Jul 7, 1986: Piper PA24260, San Antonio, TX, Substantial damage. Unable to compensate for mild crosswind. Veered off the runway side on landing. Pushed left main gear into left wing.

## Other investigations on N9165P (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB MIA85LA199](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA85LA199), Jun 25, 1985: Piper PA-24-250 (N9165P), Opa Locka, FL, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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