# NTSB GAA17CA085: Hundley Michael J Vans RV8, N880KM, Roopville, GA, November 22, 2016

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: November 22, 2016, 17:55 local (22:55 UTC)
- Place: Roopville, GA
- Coordinates: 33.42139, -85.161392 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.4214&lon=-85.1614&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 6, 2017
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB office: General Aviation Accidents
- Parties: FAA
- NTSB case key (mKey): 94452
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=GAA17CA085
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/94452/pdf
- NTSB docket: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=94452
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/GAA17CA085

## Probable cause

The pilot’s overcorrection with the right rudder during the landing roll, which resulted in a loss of directional control and a runway excursion.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Use of equip/info: aircraft control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040): Personnel issues › Task performance · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040/cases.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 9,295 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063040/cases.md)
- [Performance/control parameters: directional control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 3,958 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md)
- [Use of equip/info: use of equip/system](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063015): Personnel issues › Task performance · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063015/cases.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 1,391 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02063015/cases.md)
- [Object/animal/substance: tree(s)](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022020): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Contributed to outcome; cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022020/cases.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 933 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022020/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Attempted remediation/recovery](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/060); cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/060/sequence.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 1,422 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/060/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300); cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 3,643 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=05629TJ), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The pilot of the tailwheel equipped airplane reported that during the 3-point landing, the airplane drifted to the left and he applied right correction. He further reported that he "obviously over corrected" because the airplane went to the right and he was unable to correct with left rudder and brake. The airplane exited the runway and impacted trees. The airplane sustained substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. The pilot reported that there were no preaccident mechanical failures or malfunctions with the airframe or engine that would have precluded normal operation. The pilot reported as a safety recommendation that he should have conducted a wheel landing to provide more directional control during the landing roll.

## Factual narrative

The pilot of the tailwheel equipped airplane reported that during the 3-point landing, the airplane drifted to the left and he applied right correction. He further reported that he "obviously over corrected" because the airplane went to the right and he was unable to correct with left rudder and brake. The airplane exited the runway and impacted trees. The airplane sustained substantial damage to both wings and the fuselage. The pilot reported that there were no preaccident mechanical failures or malfunctions with the airframe or engine that would have precluded normal operation. The pilot reported as a safety recommendation that he should have conducted a wheel landing to provide more directional control during the landing roll.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N880KM](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N880KM-2017-08-11), registration cancelled 2017-08-11, S/N 82670, built 2010 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: HUNDLEY MICHAEL J VANS RV8 (UNDESIGNAT)
- Registry model: [Hundley Michael J VANS RV8](https://openairdocs.org/model/hundley-michael-j-vans-rv8) (registry code 05629TJ) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming V0-360-A1A](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-v0-360-a1a) (registry code 41630, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane, amateur-built
- Serial number: 82670
- Year built: 2010
- Airframe hours: 288.8
- Engines: Lycoming XO-360-A1A-RT 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Airworthiness certificate: Special, Experimental (Special)
- Last inspection: Annual, June 23, 2016
- Departed: CAE, COLUMBIA, SC
- Destination: 8GA1, Roopville, GA
- Flight plan: IFR
- Airport: 8GA1, Gum Creek, runway 06, 2,350 × 65 ft, dirt
- Equipment: Angle of attack indicator, ADS-B, Stall warning system, Satellite tracking device, Onboard weather, Electronic primary flight display, Electronic multifunction display, Electronic flight bag or handheld device, Auto-pilot

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 64; injuries: none; airline transport; airplane ratings: single-engine land, single-engine sea, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, with waivers/limitations; last flight review April 24, 2015; seat: front; flight hours: 13,310 total, 341 in this make and model, 13,000 as pilot in command, 60.7 in the last 90 days, 24.7 in the last 30 days, 1.5 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 55 °F, dew point 25 °F
- Altimeter: 30.25 inHg
- Observed at: KCTJ, 13 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20161122019279A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20161122019279A), Nov 22, 2016: Hundley Michael J VANS RV8, Roopville, GA, Substantial damage. Upon touchdown the aircraft nosed left. Pilot over corrected but due to the dry sandy runway, main gear braking and tail wheel steering were not effective.…

## Docket (2 files)

The files NTSB released with the investigation on January 19, 2017, on NTSB's docket system: https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=94452. 1.0 MB in all.

- Pilot/Operator Aircraft Accident Report, NTSB Form 6120.1 (item 1, .PDF, 685 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40448460&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Pilot%2FOperator%20Aircraft%20Accident%20Report,%20NTSB%20Form%206120.1-Master.PDF
- Accident Photo (Courtesy of FAA) (item 2, .PDF, 1 photo, 325 KB): https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=40448461&FileExtension=.PDF&FileName=Accident%20Photo%20(Courtesy%20of%20FAA)-Master.PDF

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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