# NTSB IAD77FID17: Piper PA-20, N1712A, Suffolk, VA, April 30, 1977

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: April 30, 1977
- Place: Suffolk, VA · SUFFOLK, VA
- Location: 36.7282° N, 76.5836° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Suffolk, VA, within about 11 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=36.7282&lon=-76.5836&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report August 17, 1977
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 147612
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=IAD77FID17
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD77FID17

## NTSB brief (aircraft 2)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-1498  77/4/30    SUFFOLK,VA          CESSNA 182          CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             PRIVATE, AGE UNK/NR, 1500
        TIME - 1130                    N7103E              PX-  0  0  0  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 13 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  1                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - MACKEY
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          SUFFOLK,VA                  ISLE OF WRIGHT,VA
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  IN FLIGHT: NORMAL CRUISE
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONTROLLED/UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT - UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT
          CONTROL ZONE/AREA - NO                                   EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO
          ANTI-COLLISION LIGHTS - INSTALLED,OPERATION UNKNOWN
```

## NTSB brief (aircraft 1)

```
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-1498  77/4/30    SUFFOLK,VA          PIPER PA-20         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             PRIVATE, AGE 59, 9700
        TIME - 1130                    N1712A              PX-  0  0  0  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 2000 IN
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  1                            TYPE, NOT INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - MACKEY
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          SUFFOLK,VA                  ISLE OF WRIGHT,VA
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  IN FLIGHT: NORMAL CRUISE
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONTROLLED/UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT - UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT
          CONTROL ZONE/AREA - NO                                   EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO
          ANTI-COLLISION LIGHTS - INSTALLED,OPERATION UNKNOWN
        REMARKS- AIRCRAFT OVERRAN OTHER AIRCRAFT
```

## Aircraft 1

- Registration: [N1712A](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N1712A-2021-10-02), registration cancelled 2021-10-02, S/N 20-858 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-20
- Registry model: [Piper PA-20](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-20) (registry code 7102002) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Mackey

## Aircraft 2

- Registration: [N7103E](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N7103E), registered now, S/N 52103, built 1959 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 182
- Registry model: [Cessna 182B](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-182b) (registry code 2072706) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental O-470 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-o-470-series) (registry code 17026, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Mackey

## FAA reports on this event (2)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19770430009971A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19770430009971A), Apr 30, 1977: Piper PA20, Suffolk, VA, Substantial damage. Aircraft overran other aircraft
- [Accident 19770430009972A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19770430009972A), Apr 30, 1977: Cessna 182B, Suffolk, VA, Substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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