# NTSB LAX02LA026: Cessna 172M, N1897V, Chandler, AZ, November 13, 2001

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 13, 2001, 11:10 local (18:10 UTC)
- Place: Chandler, AZ
- Coordinates: 33.240276, -111.780975 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.2403&lon=-111.7810&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report May 28, 2002
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: FAA Flight Standards District Office
- NTSB case key (mKey): 53765
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX02LA026
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/53765/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX02LA026

## Probable cause

Failure of the student pilot to maintain directional control during landing.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - sign

## Analysis

On landing, the airplane veered off the runway, struck a taxiway sign, and sheared off the main landing gear.  The student was on his first supervised solo flight.  He completed one landing, taxied back, and the accident occurred on the second landing.  He maintained an approach speed between 70 and 75 knots until over the numbers.  He had the flaps at 40 degrees and the throttle in about 1/2 inch.  He reduced the throttle by half to land and landed a hard on the main gear.  The airplane bounced about 2 feet back into the air, so he fully reduced the power and the airplane settled back to the runway.  The airplane began to veer to the right; he countered with a little left rudder, but did not feel a correction.  He thought the airplane would leave the runway, and removed his right foot from the rudder pedal.  He stomped on the left pedal, but could not prevent the airplane from departing the runway.

## Factual narrative

On November 13, 2001, about 1110 hours mountain standard time, a Cessna 172M, N1897V, departed the right side of runway 22R during the landing roll at Chandler, Arizona.  Sunbird Flight Services was operating the rental airplane under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91.  The solo student pilot was not injured; the airplane sustained substantial damage.  The local instructional flight departed about 1015.  Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan had been filed.

The operator reported that this was the student's first supervised solo.

The student reported that he completed one landing, taxied back, and the accident occurred on the second landing.  He maintained an approach speed between 70 and 75 knots until over the numbers.  He had the flaps at 40 degrees and the throttle in about 1/2 inch.  He reduced the throttle by half to land and landed a "little hard" on the main gear.  The airplane bounced about 2 feet back into the air, so he fully reduced the power and the airplane settled back to the runway.  The airplane began to veer to the right; he countered with a little left rudder, but did not feel a correction.  He thought the airplane would leave the runway, and removed his right foot from the rudder pedal and "stomped" on the left pedal.  The airplane departed the runway, struck a taxiway sign, and sheared the main landing gear off.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N1897V](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N1897V), registered now, S/N 17263785, built 1974 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Cessna 172M
- Registry model: [Cessna 172M](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172m) (registry code 2072418) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 17263785
- Airframe hours: 7198
- Engines: Lycoming O-320-E2D 130 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Sunbird Flight Services
- Registered owner: Philip E. Remmel
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, November 9, 2001, 12 hours before
- Departed: CHD, CHANDLER, AZ
- Airport: CHD, Chandler, runway 22R, 4,401 × 75 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 37; injuries: none; student; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 23 total, 23 in this make and model

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 220° at 5 knots
- Visibility: 30 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 15,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 70 °F, dew point 46 °F
- Altimeter: 30.01 inHg
- Observed at: IWA, 7 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20011113032219A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20011113032219A), Nov 13, 2001: Cessna 172M, Chandler, AZ, No damage. (-23) This was a first solo for the student pilot. The pilot reports that the right main landing gear hit a little hard and the aircraft bounced 2-3' in the…

## Other investigations on N1897V (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB GAA19CA220](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/GAA19CA220), Apr 23, 2019: Cessna 172 (N1897V), Prescott, AZ, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's failure to maintain clearance from a fence post during taxi operations.
- [NTSB LAX00LA256](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX00LA256), Jul 8, 2000: Cessna 172 (N1897V), Chandler, AZ, substantial damage. Probable cause: failure of the pilot-in-command to adequately compensate for a crosswind condition and maintain directional control during the landing roll, resulting in the airplane departing the runway and…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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