# NTSB LAX03LA030: Cessna 182T, N794SA, Scottsdale, AZ, November 11, 2002

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 11, 2002, 14:30 local (21:30 UTC)
- Place: Scottsdale, AZ
- Coordinates: 33.626945, -111.900001
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.6269&lon=-111.9000&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report July 29, 2004
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: Federal Aviation Administration
- NTSB case key (mKey): 56052
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX03LA030
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/56052/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX03LA030

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to apply adequate crosswind compensation, which resulted in a loss of directional control.  Factors were the crosswind and the pilot's lack of experience in the make and model of airplane.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - weather condition - crosswind (contributing factor)
  - compensation for wind conditions - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience in type of aircraft, pilot in command (contributing factor)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - airport sign/marker
  - object - runway light

## Analysis

On final for runway 21, the pilot applied crosswind correction, and landed on the centerline.  The pilot stated that he could not maintain directional control of the airplane on the landing rollout.  The airplane drifted to the left and struck runway lights and a sign.  Reported winds prior to the accident were from 330 degrees at 9 knots.  About 30 minutes after the accident, the reported winds were from 310 degrees at 8 knots.  The pilot stated that the accident could have been prevented if he had received "more landing practice, including crosswind practice in this particular type of aircraft (high wing)."  The pilot had accumulated 5 hours flight time in the accident make and model of airplane.

## Factual narrative

On November 11, 2002, about 1430 mountain standard time, a Cessna 182T, N794SA, collided with runway lights and a sign on the landing rollout from runway 21 at the Scottsdale Airport (SDL), Scottsdale, Arizona.  The pilot operated the airplane under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91.  The airplane sustained substantial damage.  The private pilot and one passenger were not injured.  The flight departed SDL about 1300 for the local area personal flight.  Day visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan had been filed.

In the pilot's written statement, he reported that he had received the automatic terminal information service (ATIS) broadcast about 20 miles from Scottsdale.  ATIS reported winds to be from 250 degrees at 10 knots.  He established radio contact with Scottsdale tower personnel.  The pilot stated that the winds reported by tower personnel were from 270 degrees at 15 knots. The pilot reported that on a 5-mile final, tower personnel reported winds to be from 310 degrees at 15 knots, gusting to 19 knots.

The pilot stated that due to the strong winds he decided not to use full flaps for landing.  He reported that the airplane touched down on centerline at 65 knots.  The pilot stated that on the landing rollout, the surface winds pushed him to the left of the runway.  He made unsuccessful attempts to slow down and maintain control of the airplane.  While attempting to maintain control and bring the airplane to a stop, the pilot saw what he believed was a light box.  He would have maneuvered to avoid the box, but thought the airplane would "cartwheel."  His main objective was to bring the airplane to a controlled stop.  The airplane impacted runway lights and a taxiway sign before coming to a stop upright.  The pilot indicated that there were no mechanical malfunctions with the airplane.

The pilot stated that the accident "could have been prevented if [he] had received more landing prractice, including crosswind practice in this particular type aircraft (high wing)."  The pilot reported that he had 5 hours flight time in the accident make and model of airplane.

An aviation routine weather report (METAR) issued at 1353 reported winds from 330 degrees at 9 knots.  A METAR issued at 1453 reported winds from 310 degrees at 8 knots.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N794SA](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N794SA), registered now, S/N T18208062, built 2001 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Cessna 182T
- Registry model: [Cessna T182T](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-t182t) (registry code 2072738) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming TI0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-ti0-540-series) (registry code 41533, turbo-prop) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: T18208062
- Airframe hours: 529.6
- Engines: Lycoming TIO-540-AK1A 235 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Arizona Flight Works
- Registered owner: Jim Rhodes
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, September 13, 2002, 30.2 hours before
- Departed: SDL, Scottsdale, AZ
- Destination: SDL
- Airport: SDL, Scottsdale Airport, runway 21, 8,249 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 63; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; last flight review March 8, 2002; seat: left; flight hours: 4,558 total, 5 in this make and model, 4,013 as pilot in command, 21 in the last 90 days, 7 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 330° at 9 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 75 °F, dew point 19 °F
- Altimeter: 30.04 inHg
- Observed at: SDL

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20021111031699A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20021111031699A), Nov 11, 2002: Cessna T182T, Scottsdale, AZ, Substantial damage. (.19) On November 11, 2002, at 1425 mountain standard time, a Cessna 182T, N794SA, collided with a runway sign during the landing rollout on runway 21 at the…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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