# NTSB LAX03LA103: Piper PA-18-150, N62712, Chandler, AZ, March 1, 2003 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report - Date: March 1, 2003, 11:00 local (18:00 UTC) - Place: Chandler, AZ - Coordinates: 33.266666, -111.800003 - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.2667&lon=-111.8000&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report October 28, 2004 - Report: Approved by Office Director - Parties: Federal Aviation Administration - NTSB case key (mKey): 56573 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX03LA103 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/56573/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX03LA103 ## Probable cause the CFI's inadequate supervision and delayed decision to abort the takeoff resulted in the runway overrun. ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - Overrun, takeoff - aborted - terrain condition - short runway/landing area - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause) - aborted takeoff - delayed, pilot in command(cfi) (cause) - On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll - object - tree(s) - terrain condition - high vegetation ## Analysis The airplane collided with obstacles during an aborted takeoff from a private dirt strip that was 2,500 feet long. During the instructional flight, the instructor and student were practicing touch-and-go takeoffs and landings. On the third touch-and-go, the instructor felt that they did not have enough power to clear trees at the end of the runway. He aborted the takeoff and the airplane went off the end of the runway and into heavy brush and small trees. The Federal Aviation Administration inspector examined the engine and airframe, and noted no mechanical malfunctions. ## Factual narrative On March 1, 2003, about 1100 mountain standard time, a Piper PA-18-150, N62712, collided with obstacles during an aborted takeoff from a private dirt strip near Chandler, Arizona. Chandler Air Service operated the airplane under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91. The certified flight instructor (CFI) and student pilot were not injured. The airplane was substantially damaged. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan had been filed. The instructional flight departed Chandler about 1030. In a written statement, the CFI stated that while executing a touch-and-go, the airplane didn't feel like it was getting full power, and he elected to abort the takeoff. The airplane overran the runway that was 2,500 feet long, and went into desert terrain, colliding with bushes and small trees. Examination of the airplane by Federal Aviation Administration inspectors revealed no discrepancies with the airframe or the engine. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N62712](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N62712), registered now, S/N 18-7809105, built 1978 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: Piper PA-18-150 - Registry model: [Piper PA-18-150](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-18-150) (registry code 7101828) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 18-7809105 - Airframe hours: 1858 - Engines: Lycoming O-320 160 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Registered owner: Chandler Air Service - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: 100 hour, February 21, 2003, 39 hours before - Departed: KCHD, Chandler, AZ - Airport: PVT, Gila Farms, runway 17, 2,500 × 100 ft, dirt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Flight instructor; age 29; injuries: none; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; last flight review November 1, 2002; seat: rear; flight hours: 1,500 total, 220 in this make and model, 1,200 as pilot in command, 250 in the last 90 days, 70 in the last 30 days, 5 in the last 24 hours - Student pilot; injuries: none; seat: front ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: calm - Visibility: 25 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 46 °F, dew point 43 °F - Altimeter: 29.97 inHg - Observed at: CHD, 20 nm away ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 20030301002909A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20030301002909A), Mar 1, 2003: Piper PA18150, Sacaton, AZ, Substantial damage. (-23) Instructor briefed his student on turning the carburetor heat off after landing as part of the touch and go procedure. The instructor simulated a… ## Other investigations on N62712 (2) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB LAX06CA097](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX06CA097), Jan 29, 2006: Piper PA-18-150 (N62712), Maricopa, AZ, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during landing rollout. A factor was the soft dirt adjacent to the runway. - [NTSB LAX04CA214](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX04CA214), May 19, 2004: Piper PA-18-150 (N62712), Chandler, AZ, substantial damage. Probable cause: the pilot's improper application of brakes during the landing roll, resulting in a nose over. From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.