# NTSB LAX08CA245: Cessna 180, N2294C, Atlanta, ID, June 15, 2008

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: June 15, 2008, 11:30 local (17:30 UTC)
- Place: Atlanta, ID
- Coordinates: 43.955276, -115.272499
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.9553&lon=-115.2725&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Landing area overshoot](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/380)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report August 28, 2008
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: Federal Aviation Administration
- NTSB case key (mKey): 68563
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX08CA245
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/68563/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX08CA245

## Probable cause

The pilot's misjudged speed and distance during the intentional touchdown in the last half of the runway, which resulted in a landing overrun. Contributing to the accident was the muddy runway condition.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Airport facilities/design: runway/landing area length](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03017037): Environmental issues › Operating environment · Not specified (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna 180, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03017037/cases.md?model=2072602), [All aircraft, 34 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03017037/cases.md)
- [Airport facilities/design: runway/landing area condition](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03017035): Environmental issues › Operating environment · Contributed to outcome (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna 180, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03017035/cases.md?model=2072602), [All aircraft, 61 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03017035/cases.md)
- [Object/animal/substance: tree(s)](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022020): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Not specified; cases with it: [Cessna 180, 3 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022020/cases.md?model=2072602), [All aircraft, 933 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022020/cases.md)
- [Performance/control parameters: descent/approach/glide path](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062040): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna 180, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062040/cases.md?model=2072602), [All aircraft, 809 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062040/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Landing-landing roll: Landing area overshoot](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/380) (defining event); cases with it: [Cessna 180, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/380/sequence.md?model=2072602), [All aircraft, 400 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/380/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Cessna 180, 54 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=2072602), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The plot landed on the last half of the 2,900-foot-long grass runway and was unable to bring the airplane to a stop before it ran off the end of the runway and into trees. Prior to going to the airport, the pilot had spoken with local area pilots who indicated that he should not use the first half of the runway because it was muddy and soft. The pilot indicated that the airplane and engine had no mechanical failures or malfunctions during the flight. The Federal Aviation Administration Airport/Facility Directory for the airport states in part, " that the lower 1/3 of the runway is soft and unusable during the early spring. " The performance section landing distance charts of the Cessna 180 Owners Manual listed a total landing distance of 1,842 over a 50-foot obstacle, with a 847-foot ground roll (chart correction factors applied for grass runway surface and no wind).

## Factual narrative

In the pilot's written statement, he reported speaking with local area pilots prior to going to the accident airport to obtain the general conditions for the airport environment. The local area pilots told him not to land on the first half of the runway due to muddy conditions. Upon arrival, the pilot overflew the airport prior to landing. He noted two parked airplanes, with one of the them parked so that a wing was near the runway. He completed the traffic pattern and landed right after the parked airplanes. He was not able to stop the airplane and it overran the runway and impacted small trees about 50 feet from the end of the runway. The pilot indicated that the airplane and engine had no mechanical failures or malfunctions during the flight. In the remarks section of the Federal Aviation Administration Airport/Facility Directory for Graham United States Forest Service Airport (U45), Atlanta, Idaho, it states that the lower 1/3 of runway 18/36 is soft and unusable during the early spring. The runway is 2,900 feet in length and 50 feet wide.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2294C](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N2294C), registered now, S/N 30594, built 1953 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Cessna 180
- Registry model: [Cessna 180](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-180) (registry code 2072602) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental O-470 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-o-470-series) (registry code 17026, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 30594
- Airframe hours: 4522
- Engines: Continental O-470 reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Clifford Scheel
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, May 1, 2008, 7 hours before
- Departed: U88, Garden Valley, ID
- Destination: U45, Atlanta, ID
- Airport: U45, Graham USFS Airport, runway 36, 2,900 × 50 ft, gravel

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 68; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine sea, multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 3; last flight review March 1, 2007; flight hours: 1,416 total, 180 in this make and model, 26 in the last 90 days, 7 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 310° at 9 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Observed at: BOI, 47 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20080615840889A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080615840889A), Jun 15, 2008: Cessna 180, Atlanta, ID, Substantial damage. (-23) This accident occurred on June 15, 2008. It was not reported by the [privacy data omitted]pilot of the aircraft. Pilot landed long and ran off the end of…

## Other investigations on N2294C (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ANC99LA157](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC99LA157), Sep 18, 1999: Cessna 180 (N2294C), Palmer, AK, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's choice of unsuitable terrain for taxi, and inadequate compensation for high winds. Factors associated with this accident were the muddy ground, and the winds of 25 knots gusting to 40…
- [NTSB ANC84LA018](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC84LA018), Nov 19, 1983: Cessna C-180 (N2294C), Big Lake, AK, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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