# NTSB LAX68A0041: Piper PA-28, N5109W, W.Los Angeles, CA, October 18, 1967

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Fatal · Closed
- Date: October 18, 1967
- Place: W.Los Angeles, CA · W.LOS ANGELES, CA
- Location: 34.0464° N, 118.4481° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of West Los Angeles, CA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.0464&lon=-118.4481&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Fatal
- Injuries: 4 fatal
- Status: Completed, report June 26, 1968
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 113654
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX68A0041
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX68A0041

## NTSB brief (aircraft 2)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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2-1142  67/10/18   W.LOS ANGELES,CAL   CESSNA 150G         CR-  1  0  0  INSTRUCTIONAL             STUDENT, AGE 26, 19 TOTAL
        TIME - 1404                    N8301J              PX-  0  0  0  SOLO                      HOURS, ALL IN TYPE, NOT
                                       DAMAGE-DESTROYED    OT-  3  0  0                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - SANTA MONICA
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT
        FACTOR(S)
           PERSONNEL - TRAFFIC CONTROL PERSONNEL: OTHER
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - CONGESTED TRAFFIC-PATTERN
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - LOCAL CONTROL                       RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONTROLLED/UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT - CONTROLLED AIRPORT
          CONTROL ZONE/AREA - YES                                  EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO
          ANTI-COLLISION LIGHTS - INSTALLED,OPERATION UNKNOWN
         FIRE AFTER IMPACT
        REMARKS- N5109W OVERTOOK AND STRUCK N8301J.ATC TRAINEES MISIDENTIFIED ACFT IN PATTERN.IMPROPER SEQUENCING.
```

## NTSB brief (aircraft 1)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2-1142  67/10/18   W.LOS ANGELES,CAL   PIPER PA-28         CR-  2  0  0  NONCOMMERCIAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1404                    N5109W              PX-  1  0  0  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  AGE 23, 1074 TOTAL HOURS,
                                       DAMAGE-DESTROYED    OT-  1  0  0                            329 IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - SANTA MONICA
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT
        FACTOR(S)
           PERSONNEL - TRAFFIC CONTROL PERSONNEL: OTHER
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - CONGESTED TRAFFIC-PATTERN
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-SMALL US GEN.AV.
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - LOCAL CONTROL                       RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - BY LOCAL CONTROL               CONTROLLED/UNCONTROLLED AIRPORT - CONTROLLED AIRPORT
          CONTROL ZONE/AREA - YES                                  EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO
          ANTI-COLLISION LIGHTS - INSTALLED,OPERATION UNKNOWN
        REMARKS- N5109W OVERTOOK AND STRUCK N8301J.ATC TRAINEES MISIDENTIFIED ACFT IN PATTERN.IMPROPER SEQUENCING.
```

## Aircraft 1

- Registration: [N5109W](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N5109W-1967-10-18), registration cancelled 1967-10-18, S/N 28130 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-160](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-160) (registry code 7102806) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Airport: Santa Monica

## Aircraft 2

- Registration: [N8301J](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8301J-1967-10-18), registration cancelled 1967-10-18, S/N 150-66201 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 150G
- Registry model: [Cessna 150G](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-150g) (registry code 2071816) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Airport: Santa Monica

## Other investigations on N5109W (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB UNK64X1348](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/UNK64X1348), Apr 17, 1964: Piper PA28 (N5109W), Borego, CA, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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