# NTSB LAX69A0051: Piper PA-28, N4906J, Julian, CA, March 5, 1969

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: March 5, 1969
- Place: Julian, CA · JULIAN, CA
- Location: 33.0735° N, 116.5889° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Julian, CA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.0735&lon=-116.5889&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report July 31, 1969
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 184743
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX69A0051
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX69A0051

## NTSB brief (aircraft 2)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-1692   69/3/5    JULIAN,CALIF        L-T-V F-8J          CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             CERTIFICATE OTHER, AGE
        TIME - 1455                    UBN14915            PX-  0  0  0  PRACTICE                  28, 1305 TOTAL HOURS, 383
                                       DAMAGE-MINOR        OT-  0  0  1                            IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  IN FLIGHT: NORMAL CRUISE
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-US MILITARY
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONTROL ZONE/AREA - NO
          CONVERGENCE ANGLE-DEGREES -  24                          HORIZONTAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -   24
          VERTICAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -  0                    EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - YES
        REMARKS- L WG TIP OF UBN14915 SLICED UNDERSIDE OF R WG OF N4906J STARTING AT TRAILING EDGE.
```

## NTSB brief (aircraft 1)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-1692   69/3/5    JULIAN,CALIF        PIPER PA-28         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             PRIVATE, AGE 21, 242
        TIME - 1455                    N4906J              PX-  0  0  0  PRACTICE                  TOTAL HOURS, 39 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  1                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH IN FLIGHT                  IN FLIGHT: NORMAL CRUISE
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT
         SPECIAL DATA
          SEGMENTS OF AVIATION INVOLVED - SMALL US GEN.AV.-US MILITARY
          CONTROLLING AGENCY - NO CONTROL                          RADAR CTL/SURVEILLANCE - NOT UNDER RADAR CONTACT
          TRAFFIC ADVISORY ISSUED - NONE                           CONTROL ZONE/AREA - NO
          CONVERGENCE ANGLE-DEGREES -  24                          HORIZONTAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -   24
          VERTICAL COLLISION ANGLE-DEGREES -  0                    EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN - NO
        REMARKS- OVER TAKEN AND STRUCK BY HIGH SPEED NAVY JET.BOTH NAVY JET AND PIPER PA-28 LANDED SAFELY AT ARPTS.
```

## Aircraft 1

- Registration: [N4906J](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N4906J), registered now, S/N 28R-30624, built 1968 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28R-180](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28r-180) (registry code 7102809) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming I0360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (registry code 41515, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage

## Aircraft 2

- Registration: UBN14915 (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: L-T-V F-8J
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: turbo jet
- Damage: Minor damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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