# NTSB LAX71FUA05: Cessna 172, N3803S, Santa Ana, CA, July 30, 1970

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: July 30, 1970
- Place: Santa Ana, CA · SANTA ANA, CA
- Location: 33.7368° N, 117.8829° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Santa Ana, CA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.7368&lon=-117.8829&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Standing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/150) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report September 10, 1971
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 107749
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX71FUA05
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX71FUA05

## NTSB brief (aircraft 2)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-4311  70/7/30    SANTA ANA,CALIF     PIPER PA-28R        CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             COMMERCIAL, AGE 21, 910
        TIME - 0555                    N3839T              PX-  0  0  1  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 73 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  1                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - ORANGE COUNTY
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION         LAST ENROUTE STOP
          SANTA ANA,CALIF             SAN QUINTIN,MEX              TIAJUANA,MEX
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH ON GROUND                  TAXI: TO TAKEOFF
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - FAILED TO SEE AND AVOID OTHER AIRCRAFT
        FACTOR(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - SUNGLARE
        REMARKS- TAXIING N ON TWY,TURNED R INTO RUNUP AREA,SAW GLINT OF PROP IN SUN,APPLIED BRAKES.HIT N3803S.
```

## NTSB brief (aircraft 1)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-4311  70/7/30    SANTA ANA,CALIF     CESSNA 172          CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             COMMERCIAL, AGE 39, 5510
        TIME - 0555                    N3803S              PX-  0  0  0  BUSINESS                  TOTAL HOURS, 535 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  2                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - ORANGE COUNTY
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          SANTA ANA,CALIF            UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH ON GROUND                  STATIC: IDLING ENGINE(S)
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT
        REMARKS- OBSRVD N3839T APCHG RUNUP AREA,DELAYED ENG RUNUP.DUCKED DOWN,COVERED FACE PRIOR COLLISION.
```

## Aircraft 1

- Registration: [N3803S](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N3803S), registered now, S/N 17251003, built 1963 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172
- Registry model: [Cessna 172E](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172e) (registry code 2072412) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental 0-300 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-0-300-series) (registry code 17022, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Orange County

## Aircraft 2

- Registration: [N3839T](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N3839T), registered now, S/N 28R-30158 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28R
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28R-180](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28r-180) (registry code 7102809) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming I0360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (registry code 41515, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Orange County

## Other investigations on N3803S (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB GAA20CA074](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/GAA20CA074), Nov 12, 2019: Cessna 172 (N3803S), FallBrook, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: The student pilot's use of excessive ground speed while making a right turn when exiting the runway, which resulted in a loss of directional control and a runway excursion.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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