# NTSB LAX73DUG16: Piper PA-12, N4166M, Idyllwild, CA, September 6, 1972

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: September 6, 1972
- Place: Idyllwild, CA · IDYLLWILD, CA
- Location: 33.7400° N, 116.7189° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Idyllwild, CA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.7400&lon=-116.7189&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report March 23, 1973
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 168229
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX73DUG16
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX73DUG16

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3707   72/9/6    IDYLLWILD,CALIF     PIPER PA-12         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             PRIVATE, AGE 52, 405
        TIME - 0605                    N4166M              PX-  0  0  0  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 133 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          PALOMAR,CALIF               RUBIDOUX,CALIF
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           NOSE OVER/DOWN                                           LANDING: ROLL
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - CONTINUED VFR FLIGHT INTO ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS
           PILOT IN COMMAND - BECAME LOST/DISORIENTED
           PILOT IN COMMAND - SELECTED UNSUITABLE TERRAIN
        FACTOR(S)
           TERRAIN - ROUGH/UNEVEN
        EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES - FORCED LANDING OFF AIRPORT ON LAND
                                  ADVERSE/UNFAVORABLE WEATHER
        REMARKS- UNCONTROLLED DESCENT THRU CLOUD.ON RECOVERY MADE EMERG LNDG ON DIRT RD. WING TIP CAUGHT BRUSH.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N4166M](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N4166M), registered now, S/N 12-3065, built 1947 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-12
- Registry model: [Piper PA-12](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-12) (registry code 7101202) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Palm Springs

## Other investigations on N4166M (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ANC11CA001](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC11CA001), Oct 2, 2010: Piper PA-12 (N4166M), Chena Hot Springs, AK, substantial damage. Probable cause: The pilot's inadequate compensation for the wind conditions during landing, which resulted in a loss of directional control and collision with trees.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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