# NTSB LAX78DUM08: Piper PA-24, N8155P, Santee, CA, December 19, 1977

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: December 19, 1977
- Place: Santee, CA · SANTEE, CA
- Location: 32.8550° N, 116.9861° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Santee, CA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=32.8550&lon=-116.9861&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 13, 1978
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 144429
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX78DUM08
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX78DUM08

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3968  77/12/19   SANTEE,CA           PIPER PA-24         CR-  0  0  1  INSTRUCTIONAL             COMMERCIAL, FL.INSTR.,
        TIME - 1822                    N8155P              PX-  0  0  2  DUAL                      AGE UNK/NR, UNK/NR TOTAL
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            HOURS, UNK/NR IN TYPE,
                                                                                                   NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - GILLESPIE
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          SANTEE,CA                   LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           HARD LANDING                                             LANDING: LEVEL OFF/TOUCHDOWN
           WHEELS-UP                                                LANDING: OTHER
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           DUAL STUDENT - IMPROPER LEVEL OFF
           PILOT IN COMMAND - INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF FLIGHT
           PILOT IN COMMAND - SPONTANEOUS-IMPROPER ACTION
        FACTOR(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - POORLY PLANNED APPROACH
        REMARKS- PLT BOUNCED ON LDG,BEGAN RECOVERY. IP TOOK OVER & RETRACTED GR.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8155P](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N8155P), registered now, S/N 24-3410, built 1963 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-24
- Registry model: [Piper PA-24-250](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-24-250) (registry code 7102404) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-540-series) (registry code 41532, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Gillespie

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19771219038469A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19771219038469A), Dec 19, 1977: Piper PA24250, Santee, CA, Substantial damage. Plt bounced on ldg,began recovery. Ip took over & retracted gr.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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