# NTSB LAX79DUM16: Piper PA-34, N56936, Ramona, CA, May 12, 1979

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: May 12, 1979
- Place: Ramona, CA · RAMONA, CA
- Location: 33.0417° N, 116.8681° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Ramona, CA, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.0417&lon=-116.8681&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report June 7, 1979
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 135340
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX79DUM16
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX79DUM16

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-2021  79/5/12    RAMONA,CA           PIPER PA-34         CR-  0  0  2  INSTRUCTIONAL             ATP,FLIGHT INSTR., AGE
        TIME - 0830                    N56936              PX-  0  0  1  DUAL                      25, 2304 TOTAL HOURS, 60
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - RAMONA
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          SAN DIEGO,CA.               RAMONA,CA
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           HARD LANDING                                             LANDING: LEVEL OFF/TOUCHDOWN
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           DUAL STUDENT - IMPROPER COMPENSATION FOR WIND CONDITIONS
           PILOT IN COMMAND - INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF FLIGHT
        FACTOR(S)
           WEATHER - SUDDEN WINDSHIFT
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - TOUCH AND GO LANDING
        WEATHER BRIEFING - NO RECORD OF BRIEFING RECEIVED
        SKY CONDITION                                            CEILING AT ACCIDENT SITE
          CLEAR                                                    UNLIMITED
        VISIBILITY AT ACCIDENT SITE                              PRECIPITATION AT ACCIDENT SITE
          5 OR OVER(UNLIMITED)                                     NONE
        OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISION AT ACCIDENT SITE                  RELATIVE BEARING OF WIND
          NONE                                                     LEFT QUARTERING HEAD WIND 293-337 DEGREES
        WIND DIRECTION-DEGREES                                   WIND VELOCITY-KNOTS
           70                                                       10
        TYPE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS                               TYPE OF FLIGHT PLAN
          VFR                                                      NONE
        REMARKS- GUSTS TO 12K.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N56936](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N56936-2012-11-13), registration cancelled 2012-11-13, S/N 34-7450041, built 1973 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-34
- Registry model: [Piper PA-34-200](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-34-200) (registry code 7103405) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming I0360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (registry code 41515, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Ramona

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19790512011689A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19790512011689A), May 12, 1979: Piper PA34200, Ramona, CA, Substantial damage. Student with flight instructor made a hard landing. Pilot claims wind gusts were a factor. Wind 10 KTS gusts to 12.

## Other investigations on N56936 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX81FA029](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX81FA029), Jan 1, 1981: Piper PA-34 (N56936), El Cajon, CA, destroyed, 5 fatal

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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