# NTSB LAX80FUJ07: Piper PA-32, N8257A, Scottsdale, AZ, October 24, 1980

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Closed
- Date: October 24, 1980
- Place: Scottsdale, AZ · SCOTTSDALE, AZ
- Location: 33.5092° N, 111.8990° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Scottsdale, AZ, within about 8 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.5092&lon=-111.8990&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 1 minor, 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report January 6, 1980
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 127776
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX80FUJ07
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX80FUJ07-127776

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3095  80/10/24   SCOTTSDALE,AZ       PIPER PA-32         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             PRIVATE, AGE 41, 715
        TIME - 0915                    N8257A              PX-  0  0  3  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 388 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - SCOTTSDALE
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          EL PASO,TX                  SCOTTSDALE,AZ
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           GROUND-WATER LOOP-SWERVE                                 LANDING: ROLL
           GEAR COLLAPSED                                           LANDING: ROLL
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - IMPROPER OPERATION OF BRAKES AND/OR FLIGHT CONTROLS
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8257A](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8257A-2009-06-15), registration cancelled 2009-06-15, S/N 32-8006096, built 1980 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-32
- Registry model: [Piper PA-32-301](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-32-301) (registry code 7103207) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming IO-540 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-io-540-series) (registry code 41530, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Scottsdale

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19801024059109A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19801024059109A), Oct 24, 1980: Piper PA32R301, Scottsdale, AZ, Substantial damage. Pilot lost directional control during rollout on landing.

## Other investigations on N8257A (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB ANC93LA037](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/ANC93LA037), Feb 27, 1993: Piper PA-32-301 (N8257A), Egegik, AK, substantial damage. Probable cause: THAT THE LIFT OFF AIRSPEED WAS NOT ATTAINED BY THE PILOT IN COMMAND BECAUSE OF THE SNOW COVERED RUNWAY.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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