# NTSB LAX82FA156: Beech A24R, N24584, Camarillo, CA, May 1, 1982 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Field investigation · Final report - Date: May 1, 1982 - Place: Camarillo, CA - Coordinates: 34.229198, -119.07006 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.2292&lon=-119.0701&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: Minor injuries - Injuries: 2 minor, 1 uninjured - Status: Completed, report May 1, 1983 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB case key (mKey): 70105 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX82FA156 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/70105/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX82FA156 ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - Midair collision, approach - vfr pattern - final approach - control tower - unavailable - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot in command (cause) - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot of other aircraft (cause) - Midair collision, approach - vfr pattern - final approach - control tower - unavailable - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot in command (cause) - visual lookout - inadequate, pilot of other aircraft (cause) ## Analysis (aircraft 2) THE PILOT TOOK OFF FROM THE CAMARILLO AIRPORT ON A LOCAL FLIGHT TO PRACTICE TOUCH AND GO LANDINGS. HE HAD MADE TWO TOUCH AND GO PATTERNS AND WAS ON HIS THIRD AND FINAL LANDING WHEN THE COLLISION OCCURRED. HE HAD TRANSMITTED HIS POSITION ON DOWNWIND AND BASE LEG ON EACH OF THE PATTERNS. THE PILOT REPORTED THAT HE DELAYED HIS BASE CALL DUE TO OTHER RADIO TRANSMISSIONS ON THE SAME UNICOM FREQUENCY, BUT TRANSMITTED AN ADVISORY OF TURNING BASE TO FINAL APPROACH. HE WAS HIGH WHEN HE BEGAN HIS FINAL APPROACH AND WAS DESCENDING AT IDLE POWER WHEN THE PROPELLER OF HIS AIRCRAFT STRUCK THE RUDDER AND RIGHT STABILATOR OF N24584. NONE OF THE PILOTS WERE AWARE OF THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE AIRCRAFT UNTIL AFTER THE COLLISION. BOTH AIRCRAFT WERE LANDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. ## Analysis (aircraft 1) THE AIRCRAFT DEPARTED VAN NUYS, CA ON A LOCAL INSTRUCTIONAL FLIGHT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PREPARING ONE OF THE PILOTS FOR A BIENNIAL FLIGHT REVIEW. DURING THE FLIGHT, THE PILOTS PROCEEDED TO THE CAMARILLO AIRPORT FOR A LANDING. BOTH PILOTS REPORT THAT ADVISORY RADIO TRANSMISSIONS WERE MADE ON DOWNWIND, BASE, AND FINAL APPROACH. WHILE ON A SHORT FINAL APPROACH, THEY FELT THE IMPACT WHICH THE INSTRUCTOR REPORTED AS SIMILAR TO WAKE TURBULENCE. A GO-AROUND WAS STARTED, BUT DISCONTINUED AS SOON AS THE INSTRUCTOR SAW THE OTHER AIRCRAFT AND REALIZED THEY HAD A MID-AIR COLLISION WITH N7254L. THE PILOT OF N7254L WAS ON A STEEPER FINAL APPROACH FOR HIS THIRD AND LAST PRACTICE LANDING WHEN THE COLLISION OCCURRED. NONE OF THE PILOTS WERE AWARE OF THE CLOSE PROXIMITY OF THE AIRCRAFT UNTIL AFTER THE COLLISION. AN INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT THE PROPELLER OF N7254L MADE CONTACT WITH THE RUDDER AND RIGHT STABILATOR OF N24584. BOTH AIRCRAFT LANDED SAFELY AFTER THE COLLISION. ## Aircraft 1 - Registration: [N24584](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N24584-2011-09-15), registration cancelled 2011-09-15, S/N MC-125, built 1972 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: BEECH A24R - Registry model: [Beech A24R](https://openairdocs.org/model/beech-a24r) (registry code 1151252) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming I0360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (registry code 41515, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: MC125 - Airframe hours: 1361 - Engines: LYCOMING IO-360-A1B 200 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Operator: Gary Higer - Registered owner: Allred Bros Leasing Co. - Departed: VNY, VAN NUYS, CA - Destination: VNY, VAN NUYS, CA - Airport: CMA, Camarillo, runway 26, 6,000 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Aircraft 2 - Registration: [N7254L](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N7254L-2024-09-14), registration cancelled 2024-09-14, S/N AA1A-0454, built 1972 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: GRUMMAN AA-1A - Registry model: [American AA-1A](https://openairdocs.org/model/american-aa-1a) (registry code 0630710) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-235 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (registry code 41505, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: AA1A-0454 - Airframe hours: 3143 - Engines: LYCOMING O-235-C2C 108 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Minor damage - Flight: Personal, Part 91 - Operator: Arthur L. Schonning - Registered owner: Arthur L. Schonning - Departed: CMA, CAMARILLO, CA - Destination: CMA, CAMARILLO, CA - Airport: CMA, Camarillo, runway 26, 6,000 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot, aircraft N24584; age 44; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 494 total, 165 in this make and model, 453 as pilot in command, 24 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours - Pilot, aircraft N7254L; age 52; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 2,674 total, 68 in this make and model, 2,536 as pilot in command, 11 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 215° at 6 knots - Visibility: 30 statute miles ## FAA reports on this event (2) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19820501016422A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19820501016422A), May 1, 1982: Beech A24R, Camarillo, CA, Substantial damage. Aircraft was struck from behind on final approach for landing. Aircraft landed without further incident. - [Accident 19820501016411A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19820501016411A), May 1, 1982: Gulstm AA1A, Camarillo, CA, Minor damage. Aircraft overtook and collided with N24584 on final approach for landing. Aircraft landed without further incident. ## Other investigations on N24584 (1) From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. - [NTSB CEN10LA432](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CEN10LA432), Jul 25, 2010: Beech A24R (N24584), Muskegon, MI, substantial damage. Probable cause: A loss of engine power for undetermined reasons. From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.