# NTSB LAX83LA187: Piper PA-28-140, N2348T, Fair Oaks, CA, April 9, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: April 8, 1983, 19:00 local (Apr 9, 1983, 03:00 UTC)
- Place: Fair Oaks, CA
- Coordinates: 38.650924, -121.250839 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=38.6509&lon=-121.2508&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 23675
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX83LA187
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/23675/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX83LA187

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, landing - roll
  - distance - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - airspeed - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, landing - roll
  - light condition - dark night (contributing factor)
  - weather condition - tailwind (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE ACFT COLLIDED WITH TERRAIN WHEN IT OVERRAN THE RUNWAY ON A PLEASURE FLIGHT. NIGHT VISUAL METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS PREVAILED. THE PILOT STATED THAT UPON ARRIVAL HE WAS UNABLE TO SEE THE 'WIND INDICATOR', HOWEVER, WHEN HE SAW AN ACFT LAND TO THE NORTH HE ELECTED TO DO THE SAME. HIS FIRST ATTEMPT AT LANDING WAS 'TOO FAST' AND HE 'WAVED OFF.' ON THE SECOND ATTEMPT HE WAS UNABLE TO STOP PRIOR TO REACHING THE END OF RUNWAY 36. THE WIND WAS FROM THE SOUTH AT 4 TO 7 KTS.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2348T](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2348T-2013-05-31), registration cancelled 2013-05-31, S/N 28-7225052, built 1971 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-140
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-7225052
- Airframe hours: 2100
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-E3D 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Navy Lemoore Flying Club
- Registered owner: Leo Ceniceros
- Last inspection: Annual, March 15, 1983, 10 hours before
- Departed: FCH, FRESNO, CA
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: 011, Phoenix Field, runway 36, 2,590 × 40 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 34; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 59 total, 5 in this make and model, 29 as pilot in command, 44 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Night/dark
- Wind: 180° at 4 knots, gusting 7
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 64 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830408015449A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830408015449A), Apr 8, 1983: Piper PA28140, Fair Oaks, CA, Substantial damage. Landed at night downwind by mistake. Ran off end of runway into bushes. No lighted wind indicator.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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