# NTSB LAX83LA418: Cessna 172P, N62038, Glendale, AZ, August 28, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: August 28, 1983, 07:00 local (14:00 UTC)
- Place: Glendale, AZ
- Coordinates: 33.569629, -112.249893 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.5696&lon=-112.2499&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 23841
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX83LA418
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/23841/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX83LA418

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, takeoff
  - aircraft preflight - improper, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - elevator trim - improper use of, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - aborted takeoff - delayed, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience, pilot in command
- In flight collision with terrain/water, takeoff

## Analysis

THE STUDENT & HIS INSTRUCTOR PLT HAD MADE 2 TAKEOFFS & LANDINGS, THEN THE INSTRUCTOR DEPLANED & THE STUDENT PREPARED TO TAKEOFF ON A SOLO FLT. ACCORDING TO THE STUDENT, HE MADE THE PRETAKEOFF CHECKS, WHICH INCLUDED SETTING THE TRIM. AS THE ACFT ACCELERATED DURING THE TAKEOFF ROLL, THE CONTROL YOKE CAME AFT WITH ENOUGH PRESSURE THAT, ACCORDING TO THE STUDENT, HE 'COULD NOT FORCE IT FORWARD.' THE NOSE STARTED TO RISE ABRUPTLY, SO THE STUDENT ELECTED TO ABORT THE TAKEOFF. HOWEVER, HE WAS UNABLE TO STOP ON THE REMAINING RWY, & SUBSEQUENTLY, THE ACFT COLLIDED WITH A DIRT BANK. AN EXAM OF THE ACFT REVEALED NO EVIDENCE OF A PRE-ACCIDENT, MECHANICAL MALFUNCTION OR FAILURE.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N62038](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N62038-2010-03-31), registration cancelled 2010-03-31, S/N 17275201 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 172P
- Registry model: [Cessna 172P](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-172p) (registry code 2072436) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 17275201
- Airframe hours: 755
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-D2J 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Semper Flight Inc., Flt. Tech.
- Registered owner: Gottfried Schmidt
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, August 24, 1983, 4 hours before
- Departed: P37, GLENDALE, AZ
- Airport: P37, Glendale Municipal, runway 17, 2,400 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 36; student; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 18 total, 18 in this make and model, 18 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 90° at 3 knots
- Visibility: 45 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 88 °F, dew point 63 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: PHX, 13 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830828045469A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830828045469A), Aug 28, 1983: Cessna 172P, Glendale, AZ, Substantial damage. Student pilot aborted takeoff and aircraft ran off the end of runway into a dirt bank.

## Other investigations on N62038 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX96LA157](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX96LA157), Apr 6, 1996: Cessna 172 (N62038), Sedona, AZ, substantial damage. Probable cause: the pilot misjudged the flare.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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