# NTSB LAX84LA230: North American T-6G, N1364J, Ramona, CA, March 25, 1984 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report - Date: March 24, 1984, 16:30 local (Mar 25, 1984, 00:30 UTC) - Place: Ramona, CA - Coordinates: 33.069568, -116.830436 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.0696&lon=-116.8304&mi=10 - Highest injury: Minor injuries - Injuries: 1 minor, 2 uninjured - Status: Completed - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB case key (mKey): 24055 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX84LA230 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/24055/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX84LA230 ## Analysis (aircraft 2) THE PLT OF A NORTH AMERICAN T-6G, N1364J, HAD JUST LANDED & WAS TAXIING DOWN A PARALLEL TAXIWAY TO THE APCH END OF THE RWY TO TAKEOFF AGAIN. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME, A CESSNA 150K, N6402G, HAD BEEN STOPPED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE PARALLEL TAXIWAY & ANOTHER ADJOINING TAXIWAY. THE CESSNA 150 HAD BENN STOPPED SO THAT THE INSTRUCTOR (CFI) COULD GET OUT OF THE ACFT & THE STUDENT COULD PROCEED WITH HIS 3RD SUPERVISED SOLO. AS THE T-6 APPROACHED THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE CESSNA WAS PARKED, THE T-6 PLT MADE A SHALLOW S-TURN TO THE LEFT, THE S-TURNED BACK TO THE RIGHT. AT THAT TIME, THE LEFT WING OF THE T-6 IMPACTED THE EMPENNAGE OF THE CESSNA FROM THE LEFT REAR. THE CFI HAD JUST DEPLANED & WAS STANDING ON THE GROUND NEXT TO THE CESSNA. HE WAS KNOCKED OFF BALANCE & GRABBED THE STRUT TO KEEP FROM FALLING TOWARD THE PROPELLER. HE THEN FELL UNDER THE CESSNA & INJURED HIS KNEE. NONE OF THE PLTS WERE AWARE THAT THE COLLISION WAS ABOUT TO OCCUR. ## Analysis (aircraft 1) THE PLT OF A NORTH AMERICAN T-6G, N1364J, HAD JUST LANDED & WAS TAXIING DOWN A PARALLEL TAXIWAY TO THE APCH END OF THE RWY TO TAKEOFF AGAIN. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME, A CESSNA 150K, N6402G, HAD BEEN STOPPED AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE PARALLEL TAXIWAY & ANOTHER ADJOINING TAXIWAY. THE CESSNA 150 HAD BEEN STOPPED SO THAT THE INSTRUCTOR (CFI) COULD GET OUT OF THE ACFT & THE STUDENT COULD PROCEED WITH HIS 3RD SUPERVISED SOLO. AS THE T-6 APPROACHED THE INTERSECTION WHERE THE CESSNA WAS PARKED, THE T-6 PLT MADE A SHALLOW S-TURN TO THE LEFT, THEN S-TURNED BACK TO THE RIGHT. AT THAT TIME, THE LEFT WING OF THE T-6 IMPACTED THE EMPENNAGE OF THE CESSNA FROM THE LEFT REAR. THE CFI HAD JUST DEPLANED & WAS STANDING ON THE GROUND NEXT TO THE CESSNA. HE WAS KNOCKED OFF BALANCE & GRABBED THE STRUT TO KEEP FROM FALLING TOWARD THE PROPELLER. HE THEN FELL UNDER THE CESSNA & INJURED HIS KNEE. NONE OF THE PLTS WERE AWARE THAT THE COLLISION WAS ABOUT TO OCCUR. ## Aircraft 1 - Registration: [N1364J](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N1364J), registered now, S/N 53655, built 1951 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: NORTH AMERICAN T-6G - Registry model: [North American T-6G](https://openairdocs.org/model/north-american-t-6g) (registry code 6400432) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Pratt & Whitney R1340 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/pratt-whitney-r1340-series) (registry code 52016, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 53655 - Airframe hours: 4863 - Engines: P&W R-1340-AN1 600 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Minor damage - Flight: Personal, Part 91 - Registered owner: Robert W. Hechman - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Annual, February 14, 1984, 6 hours before - Departed: L39, RAMONA, CA - Airport: 139, Romana, runway 27, 4,000 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Aircraft 2 - Registration: [N6402G](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N6402G-1990-01-29), registration cancelled 1990-01-29, S/N 15071902 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: CESSNA 150K - Registry model: [Cessna 150K](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-150k) (registry code 2071822) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 15071902 - Airframe hours: 4682 - Engines: CONTINENTAL O-200 100 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Registered owner: William T. & Shirley L. - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Unknown, September 18, 1983, 82 hours before - Departed: MYF, SAN DIEGO, CA - Airport: 139, Romana, runway 27, 4,000 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot, aircraft N1364J; age 60; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: front; flight hours: 924 total, 202 in this make and model, 749 as pilot in command, 22 in the last 90 days - Pilot, aircraft N6402G; age 24; student; medical: class 3, unknown; seat: left; flight hours: 18 total, 18 in this make and model, 2 as pilot in command, 4 in the last 90 days ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 270° at 8 knots - Visibility: 30 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: -0 °F ## FAA reports on this event (2) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19840324012401A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840324012401A), Mar 24, 1984: Namer T6G, Ramona, CA, Minor damage. Struck a 150 N6402G while taxiing. The 150 was stopped on the taxiing to deplane the CFI. CFI knocked to the ground - [Accident 19840324012402A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840324012402A), Mar 24, 1984: Cessna 150K, Ramona, CA, Substantial damage. Stopped on taxiway to allow student to solo. Aircraft was struck by a taxiing T6 N1364J. CFI was knocked to ground. From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.