# NTSB LAX84LA344: Piper PA-28R-201T, N2650Q, Kernville, CA, June 10, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: June 9, 1984, 19:35 local (Jun 10, 1984, 02:35 UTC)
- Place: Kernville, CA
- Coordinates: 35.729728, -118.389213 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=35.7297&lon=-118.3892&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 24306
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX84LA344
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/24306/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX84LA344

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, takeoff
  - preflight planning/preparation - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - performance data - not used, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - high density altitude (cause)
  - lift-off - not possible, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - aborted takeoff - delayed, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water encounter with terrain/water, takeoff
  - terrain condition - dirt bank/rising embankment (contributing factor)

## Analysis

PLT ATTEMPTED TO TAKEOFF WITH ACFT NEAR MAX GROSS WEIGHT. THE DENSITY ALT WAS CALCULATED TO BE 5000 FT. ACCORDING TO THE PERFORMANCE CHARTS, THE ACFT WOULD HAVE USED APRX 5000 FT FOR TAKEOFF. THE DEPARTURE RUNWAY WAS 3500 FEET LONG. THE PLT ATTEMPTED TAKEOFF BUT ABORTED WHEN THE ACFT WOULD NOT FLY AT A ROTATION SPEED OF 70 KTS. THE PLT USED MAX BRAKING BUT WAS UNABLE TO STOP THE ACFT BEFORE IT RAN OFF THE END OF THE RWY AND COLLIDED WITH AN EMBANKMENT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N2650Q (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28R-201T (PA-28R-201)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 2BR7703072
- Engines: CONTINENTAL TSIO-360-F 200 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Barry Roscoe
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, May 1, 1984, 10 hours before
- Departed: KERNVILLE, CA
- Destination: VNY, VAN NUYS, CA
- Airport: L05, Kernville, runway 17, 3,500 × 60 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 31; commercial, private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 725 total, 500 in this make and model, 535 as pilot in command, 12 in the last 90 days, 12 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 300° at 9 knots
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 82 °F, dew point 43 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: BFL, 40 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19840609075019A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19840609075019A), Jun 9, 1984: Piper PA28R201T, Kernville, CA, Substantial damage. Tookoff on 3500 foot runway, needed 5000. Delayed abort, off end, hit embankment. Aircraft overweight.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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