# NTSB LAX85FA193: Cessna 150M, N8190U, Fullerton, CA, April 2, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Field investigation · Final report
- Date: April 2, 1985, 15:28 local (23:28 UTC)
- Place: Fullerton, CA
- Location: 33.8720° N, 117.9798° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at FULLERTON MUNI (FUL), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.8720&lon=-117.9798&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 1 minor
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 24485
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX85FA193
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/24485/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85FA193

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - planned approach - poor, pilot in command
  - flare - improper, pilot in command
- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - inadequate training(emergency procedure(s)), flight instructor(on ground) (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with object, takeoff - initial climb
  - object - fence (contributing factor)
  - go-around - delayed, pilot in command (cause)
  - carburetor heat - improper use of, pilot in command (cause)
  - raising of flaps - premature, pilot in command (cause)

## Analysis

GND WITNESS & THE STUDENT PLT RPTD UPON TOUCHDOWN THE ACFT BEGAN TO BOUNCE. AFTER SEVERAL BOUNCES THE PLT BEGAN TO GO-AROUND UPON REACHING MIDFIELD. AFTER LIFT OFF THE ACFT BEGAN TO SINK AND COLLIDED WITH THE ARPT BOUNDARY FENCE. WHEN EXECUTING THE GO-AROUND THE PLT APPLIED FULL THROTTLE WITHOUT CLOSING THE CARB HEAT & IMMEDIATELY RAISED THE FLAPS. FULL THROTTLE WITH CARB HEAT ON WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE ENGINE POWER & RAISING THE FLAPS WOULD CAUSE THE ACFT TO DVLP A HIGH SINK RATE UNDER THESE CONDITIONS. THE PLT RPTD SHE HAD EXPERIENCED BOUNCED LNDGS & HAD PERFORMED GO-AROUNDS DURING HER TRAINING, BUT THAT DURING THOSE TIMES SHE WAS DIRECTED BY THE INSTRUCTOR IN THE RECOVERY PROCESS AND SHE HAD NEVER RECEIVED FORMAL INSTRUCTION IN THE RECOVERY PROCESS. THE PLT'S FLIGHT RECORD DISCLOSED NO EVIDENCE THAT THE PLT RECEIVED ANY INSTRUCTION IN THESE AREAS. THE PLT'S LOGBOOK DISCLOSED 3 ENTRIES WHERE THE PLT RECEIVED TRAINING IN GO-AROUND MANEUVERS.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N8190U (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 150M
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 15077907
- Airframe hours: 34862
- Engines: CONTINENTAL O-200-A 100 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Aviation Facilities, Inc.
- Registered owner: James L. & Robbynn D.Gualtiere
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Utility
- Last inspection: 100 hour, March 27, 1985, 195 hours before
- Airport: FUL, Fullerton, runway 24, 3,121 × 75 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 37; student; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 324 total, 324 in this make and model, 57 as pilot in command, 300 in the last 90 days, 84 in the last 30 days, 7 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 220° at 8 knots
- Visibility: 40 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 90 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: FUL

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19850402012319A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19850402012319A), Apr 2, 1985: Cessna 150M, Fullerton, CA, Substantial damage. Solo student porpoised on touchdown and during go around struck fence with nosewheel. Impacted ground.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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