# NTSB LAX85LA044: Cessna 185F, N4845E, Glendale, AZ, November 18, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 18, 1984, 10:02 local (17:02 UTC)
- Place: Glendale, AZ
- Coordinates: 33.57048, -112.249282 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.5705&lon=-112.2493&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 24593
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX85LA044
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/24593/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX85LA044

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, takeoff - roll/run
  - proper alignment - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - elevator - improper use of, pilot in command (cause)
  - brakes(normal) - improper use of, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of familiarity with aircraft, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience in kind of aircraft, pilot in command (cause)
  - inadequate transition/upgrade training, pilot in command (cause)
  - throttle/power control - improper use of, pilot in command (cause)
- Nose over, takeoff - roll/run

## Analysis

THE ACFT WENT TO THE LEFT OF THE DESIRED TRACK FOR TAKEOFF AND THE PLT SAID THAT IN THE ATTEMPT TO REGAIN DIRECTIONAL CONTROL BY MEANS OF THROTTLE MANIPULATION AND BRAKE APPLICATION (THE PLT IN LATER INSPECTION OF RWY AND BRAKES REPORTED RUBBER MARKS ON THE RWY SURFACE AND 'THE LEFT BRAKE WAS BLUE' PITCH CONTROL WAS LOST. THE ACFTS TAIL CONTINUED TO RISE UNTIL THE ACFT NOSED OVER ON THE RWY. THE PLT REPORTED IN THE 6120.1 REPORT THAT THE ACCIDENT WAS NOT RELATED TO A MECH FAILURE/MALFUNCTION. THE PLTS REPORTED TOTAL TIME IN THIS TYPE OF ACFT IS 33 HRS OF WHICH 2 WERE FLOWN IN THE LAST 30 DAYS. THE PLT ALSO REPORTED A SLIGHT X-WIND FROM THE LEFT AND A 'P' FACTOR INCREASE AS THE TAIL OF THE ACFT BEGAN TO RISE DURING TAKEOFF ACCELERATION.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N4845E](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N4845E), registered now, S/N 18503887, built 1979 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 185F
- Registry model: [Cessna A185F](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-a185f) (registry code 2072821) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental IO-520 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-io-520-series) (registry code 17032, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 18503887
- Airframe hours: 285
- Engines: CONTINENTAL IO-520-D 300 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Marley Cattle Co.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, December 15, 1983, 51 hours before
- Departed: P37, GLENDALE, AZ
- Airport: P37, Glendale Muni, runway 17, 2,400 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 40; airline transport, flight instructor; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 3,950 total, 33 in this make and model, 3,660 as pilot in command, 84 in the last 90 days, 20 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Visibility: 50 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 75 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19841118062409A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19841118062409A), Nov 18, 1984: Cessna 185F, Glendale, AZ, Substantial damage. Pulled to left as tail raised, pulled off power, aircraft slowed quickly, tail came up and over.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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