# NTSB LAX86LA067: Piper PA-34-200T, N3885F, Glendale, AZ, December 14, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: December 14, 1985, 14:15 local (21:15 UTC)
- Place: Glendale, AZ
- Coordinates: 33.570362, -112.250083 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.5704&lon=-112.2501&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 1 minor
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 25038
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX86LA067
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/25038/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX86LA067

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, landing - roll
  - in-flight planning/decision - improper, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - misjudged, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - airspeed - excessive, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - proper touchdown point - not attained, pilot in command (cause)
  - all available runway - not used, pilot in command
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - fence
  - object - airport facility
- Complete gear collapsed, landing - roll
  - landing gear - overload

## Analysis

AFTER COMPLETING A LCL FLIGHT THE PLT RETURNED TO HIS HOME BASE ARPT & PROCEEDED TO LAND ON THE 2400 FT LONG RWY. THE PLT REPORTED THAT HE WAS UNABLE TO STOP AT ITS END AND COLLIDED WITH BARRICADES AND A FENCE. A WITNESS REPORTED THAT THE ACFT SKIDDED ON THE RWY FOR 1,000 FEET BEFORE OVERRUNNING ITS END. NO MECHANICAL FAILURES OR MALFUNCTIONS WERE REPORTED WITH THE ACFT.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N3885F](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N3885F-2013-04-17), registration cancelled 2013-04-17, S/N 34-7670311, built 1976 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-34-200T
- Registry model: [Piper PA-34-200T](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-34-200t) (registry code 7103406) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental TSIO-360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-tsio-360-series) (registry code 17019, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 34-7670311
- Airframe hours: 965
- Engines: CONTINENTAL TSIO-360-E 200 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: M & K Leasing Co., Ltd
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, December 4, 1985, 0 hours before
- Departed: P37, GLENDALE, AZ
- Destination: P37, GLENDALE, AZ
- Airport: P37, Glendale Muni, runway 17, 2,400 × 50 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 46; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land, single-engine sea, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 3,700 total, 430 in this make and model, 3,590 as pilot in command, 30 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 3 knots
- Visibility: 15 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 70 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19851214062069A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19851214062069A), Dec 14, 1985: Piper PA34200T, Glendale, AZ, Substantial damage. Overran runway and hit railroad ties during landing. Pilot said the airspeed might have been too fast on landing.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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