# NTSB LAX86LA182: Piper PA-38-112, N24274, Salinas, CA, April 12, 1986

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: April 12, 1986, 13:30 local (21:30 UTC)
- Place: Salinas, CA
- Coordinates: 36.669719, -121.610008 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=36.6697&lon=-121.6100&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 25126
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX86LA182
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/25126/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX86LA182

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - airspeed - not maintained, dual student (cause)
  - stall
  - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

THE ACFT STALLED AND COLLIDED WITH THE GROUND SHORTLY AFTER DEPARTING RWY 31 AT SALINAS MUNICIPAL AIRPORT. NEITHER THE CERTIFIED FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR NOR THE DUAL STUDENT WAS INJURED. THE INSTRUCTOR REPORTED THAT SHE WAS GIVING THE STUDENT PLT 'TOUCH AND GO' TAKEOFF AND LANDING INSTRUCTION. THE ACCIDENT OCCURRED ON THE THIRD TAKEOFF. SHE STATED THE STUDENT ROTATED AT ABOUT 70 MPH AND WHEN THE ACFT WAS ABOUT 25 FT IN THE AIR THE STALL WARNING HORN SOUNDED FOLLOWED BY A RIGHT ROLL. THE INSTRUCTOR ASSUMED COMMAND OF THE ACFT BUT THE ACFT CONTACTED THE GROUND BEFORE SHE COULD REESTABLISH CONTROL.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N24274](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N24274-1989-08-17), registration cancelled 1989-08-17, S/N 3879A1109 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38-112
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 38-79A1109
- Airframe hours: 2533
- Engines: LYCOMING O-235-L2A 112 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Air Trails, Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, March 5, 1986, 29 hours before
- Departed: SNS, SALINAS, CA
- Airport: SNS, Salinas Municipal, runway 31, 4,825 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 45; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; flight hours: 489 total, 70 in this make and model, 350 as pilot in command, 128 in the last 90 days, 50 in the last 30 days, 5 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 260° at 18 knots, gusting 27
- Visibility: 50 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 59 °F, dew point 41 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: SNS

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19860412012909A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19860412012909A), Apr 12, 1986: Piper PA38112, Salinas, CA, Substantial damage. Stalled and impacted ground from 30 feet above runway after takeoff.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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