# NTSB LAX86LA306: Cessna 195, N3899V, Ramona, CA, July 28, 1986

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: July 28, 1986, 10:00 local (17:00 UTC)
- Place: Ramona, CA
- Coordinates: 33.070701, -116.830802 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.0707&lon=-116.8308&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 25223
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX86LA306
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/25223/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX86LA306

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - control interference, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - brakes(normal) - improper use of, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - lack of recent experience in type of aircraft, pilot in command(cfi) (contributing factor)
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - ground loop/swerve - inadvertent, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)
  - remedial action - misjudged, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)

## Analysis

THE AIRCRAFT OWNER STATED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE FLIGHT WAS TO OBTAIN 5 HOURS OF TRANSITION TRAINING IN THE TAIL DRAGGER AND ACCOMPLISH A BFR. AFTER DEPARTURE THE CFI HAD THE PILOT PERFORM AIRWORK MANEUVERS ENROUTE TO THE RAMONA AREA. THE PILOT SAID THAT A LIGHT OIL FILM HAD DEVELOPED ON THE WINDSHIELD DURING THE AIRWORK AND A DECISION WAS MADE TO LAND AT ROMONA TO CLEAN THE WINDSHIELD AND PRACTICE TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS. INTENDING TO MAKE A THREE POINT LANDING, THE PILOT SAID THAT A 'SLIGHT BOUNCE OCCURRED ON TOUCHDOWN' AND THE CFI TOLD HIM TO ADD A LITTLE POWER. THE PILOT SAID THAT HE COMPLIED AND THEN THE CFI TOLD HIM 'NO,' AND 'YANKED THE THROTTLE OFF.' THE PILOT SAID THAT AFTER THE CFI REDUCED THE POWER THE AIRCRAFT 'WENT WILD AND TURNED SIDEWAYS.' THE PILOT FURTHER SAID THAT THE CFI 'GRABBED THE CONTROLS' AS HE REDUCED THE THROTTLE TO IDLE. ACCORDING TO THE PILOT'S REPORT, THE CFI HAD ONLY 11 HOURS TOTAL IN THE CESSNA 195, WITH ONLY ONE HOUR ACCRUED IN THE PAST 90 DAYS.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N3899V](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N3899V), registered now, S/N 7377, built 1949 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 195
- Registry model: [Cessna 195](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-195) (registry code 2073102) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Jacobs R755A series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/jacobs-r755a-series) (registry code 35006, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 7377
- Airframe hours: 5931
- Engines: JACOBS R755A2 300 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: James L. Foelschow
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, September 1, 1985, 81 hours before
- Departed: SEE, GILLESPIE, CA
- Airport: L39, Ramona, runway 27, 4,000 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 46; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: right; flight hours: 5,200 total, 11 in this make and model, 5,000 as pilot in command, 250 in the last 90 days, 85 in the last 30 days, 3 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 15 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 73 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19860728036499A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19860728036499A), Jul 28, 1986: Cessna 195, Ramona, CA, Substantial damage. The aircraft ground looped when the pilot added power during landing. The instructor failed to take control in time

## Other investigations on N3899V (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB LAX93LA034](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX93LA034), Nov 8, 1992: Cessna 195 (N3899V), El Cajon, CA, substantial damage. Probable cause: THE PILOT'S IMPROPER USE OF THE BRAKES.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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