# NTSB LAX87DUG07: Quickie Q-200, N2GQ, Redlands, CA, August 21, 1987

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Fatal · Final report
- Date: August 21, 1987, 07:45 local (14:45 UTC)
- Place: Redlands, CA
- Coordinates: 34.000736, -117.119628 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=34.0007&lon=-117.1196&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Fatal
- Injuries: 2 fatal
- Status: Completed, report February 24, 1989
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 25302
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX87DUG07
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/25302/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX87DUG07

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, approach - vfr pattern - final approach
  - aircraft control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - aircraft weight and balance - exceeded, pilot in command (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled

## Analysis

DURING A DEMO FLT THE ACFT WAS OBSERVED ON FINAL APPROACH WHEN IT COLLIDED WITH THE TERRAIN AND WAS CONSUMED BY FIRE. THERE WERE NO MECHANICAL FAILURES OR MALFUNCTIONS REPORTED. THE PLT MADE A RADIO CALL AS HE TURNED TO THE BASE LEG. THERE WAS NO REPORT OF ANY EMERGENCY CONDITION. THE ACFT IMPACTED ROUGH TERRAIN ABOUT 400 YDS SHORT OF THE RWY. THE PLT/OWNER HAD BEEN RECHECKED BY FAA ON 10/23/86 BECAUSE HE WAS OBSERVED HAVING DIFFICULTY LNDG AND TAKING OFF IN THE QUICKIE TRI Q-200. THE PAX WAS A STU PLT TAKING A FAM RIDE IN THE ACFT. THE ACFT IS CONTROLLED BY A SINGLE CONTROL STICK BETWEEN THE TWO PLTS. IT IS NOT KNOWN WHO WAS FLYING THE ACFT AT THE TIME OF THE ACC. THE ACFT WAS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 200 LBS OVERWEIGHT WHEN IT CRASHED.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2GQ](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2GQ-1994-08-03), registration cancelled 1994-08-03, S/N 1 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: QUICKIE Q-200
- Registry model: [Kuhlman Glenn E TRI Q200](https://openairdocs.org/model/kuhlman-glenn-e-tri-q200) (registry code 05613WB) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane, amateur-built
- Serial number: 2249
- Engines: CONTINENTAL O-200 100 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Fire: On-Ground
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Glenne. Kuhlman
- Airworthiness certificate: Special, Experimental (Special)
- Departed: L12, REDLANDS, CA
- Airport: L12, Redlands, runway 26, 4,500 × 75 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 72; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; toxicology performed; flight hours: 2,320 total, 50 in this make and model

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 70 °F

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19870821047069A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19870821047069A), Aug 21, 1987: Amtrqk QUICKIE2, Redlands, CA, Destroyed, 2 fatal. Aircraft crashed and burned on final approach. No aircraft or engine defects noted. Impact angle indicates a stall.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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