# NTSB LAX91LA145: Aeronca 7-AC, N84025, No. Las Vegas, NV, March 25, 1991

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: March 25, 1991, 11:15 local (19:15 UTC)
- Place: No. Las Vegas, NV
- Coordinates: 36.239444, -115.229766 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=36.2394&lon=-115.2298&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Serious injuries
- Injuries: 1 serious
- Status: Completed, report December 14, 1992
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 27147
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=LAX91LA145
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/27147/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/LAX91LA145

## Probable cause

THE PILOT'S FAILURE TO MAINTAIN AIRSPEED.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - airspeed - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, takeoff - initial climb

## Analysis

DURING A CLOSED-PATTERN TURN TO DOWNWIND AFTER TAKEOFF, THE AIRPLANE STALLED. THE PILOT STATED THE WINDS WERE STRONGER THAN ANTICIPATED.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N84025](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N84025), registered now, S/N 7AC-2712, built 1946 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: AERONCA 7-AC
- Registry model: [Aeronca 7AC](https://openairdocs.org/model/aeronca-7ac) (registry code 2110102) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental A&C65 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (registry code 17003, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 2712
- Engines: CONTINENTAL C-65 65 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Scott W. Griesman
- Registered owner: Scott W. Griesman
- Last inspection: Unknown, January 2, 2000

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 53; flight engineer, airline transport; airplane ratings: single-engine land, single-engine sea, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; flight hours: 10,000 total, 100 in this make and model

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 180° at 16 knots
- Visibility: 75 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 10,000 ft broken
- Observed at: VGT, 1 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19910325007489A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19910325007489A), Mar 25, 1991: Bbavia 7AC, Las Vegas, NV, Destroyed. Took off in crosswind and stalled turning to crosswind leg. Spun in.

## Other investigations on N84025 (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB OAK71DVW32](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/OAK71DVW32), May 12, 1971: Aeronca 7AC (N84025), N.Las Vegas, NV, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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