# NTSB MIA78FA084: Piper PA-23, N4569P, Oldsmar, FL, May 12, 1978

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Fatal · Closed
- Date: May 12, 1978
- Place: Oldsmar, FL · OLDSMAR, FL
- Location: 28.0484° N, 82.6713° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Oldsmar, FL, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=28.0484&lon=-82.6713&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Fatal
- Injuries: 3 fatal
- Status: Completed, report August 15, 1978
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 142056
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MIA78FA084
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA78FA084

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-1903  78/5/12    OLDSMAR,FL          PIPER PA-23         CR-  3  0  0  INSTRUCTIONAL             ATP,FLIGHT INSTR., AGE
        TIME - 1515                    N4569P              PX-  0  0  0  DUAL                      25, 2957 TOTAL HOURS, 121
                                       DAMAGE-DESTROYED    OT-  0  0  0                            IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          ST PETERSBURG,FL            LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           STALL: SPIN                                              IN FLIGHT: NORMAL CRUISE
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           DUAL STUDENT - FAILED TO OBTAIN/MAINTAIN FLYING SPEED
           PILOT IN COMMAND - INADEQUATE SUPERVISION OF FLIGHT
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N4569P](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N4569P-1980-07-30), registration cancelled 1980-07-30, S/N 27-77 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-23
- Registry model: [Piper PA-23-250](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-23-250) (registry code 7102308) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19780512025459A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19780512025459A), May 12, 1978: Piper PA23250, Oldsmar, FL, Destroyed

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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