# NTSB MIA79FA017: Piper PA-28, N3409Q, Jacksonville, FL, November 12, 1978

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Fatal · Closed
- Date: November 12, 1978
- Place: Jacksonville, FL · JACKSONVILLE, FL
- Location: 30.3322° N, 81.6557° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Jacksonville, FL, within about 15 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=30.3322&lon=-81.6557&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Unknown](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/990) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Fatal
- Injuries: 1 fatal
- Status: Completed, report February 28, 1979
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 138566
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MIA79FA017
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA79FA017

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-4128  78/11/12 NR.JACKSONVILLE,FL    PIPER PA-28         CR-  1  0  0  INSTRUCTIONAL             STUDENT, AGE 41, 22 TOTAL
        TIME - UNK/NR                  N3409Q              PX-  0  0  0  TRAINING                  HOURS, ALL IN TYPE, NOT
                                       DAMAGE-DESTROYED    OT-  0  0  0                            INSTRUMENT RATED.
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
         JACKSONVILLE,FL              LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           UNDETERMINED                                             UNKNOWN/NOT REPORTED
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           MISCELLANEOUS - UNDETERMINED
        REMARKS- FOUND 1-3-79.NO EVIDENCE OF PREIMPACT ACFT FAILURE FOUND.STUD PLT LOST CONTROL FOR UNDET REASON.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N3409Q](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N3409Q-1978-11-12), registration cancelled 1978-11-12, S/N 28-7716154, built 1977 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19781112044439A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19781112044439A), Nov 12, 1978: Piper PA28161, Jacksonville, FL, Destroyed. Found 1-3-79.no evidence of preimpact acft failure found. Stud pltt control for undet reason.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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