# NTSB MIA81FLA09: Piper PA-38, N2577C, Ormond Beach, FL, December 13, 1980

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Closed
- Date: December 13, 1980
- Place: Ormond Beach, FL · ORMOND BEACH, FL
- Location: 29.2858° N, 81.0559° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Ormond Beach, FL, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=29.2858&lon=-81.0559&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Taxi](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/250) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 4 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 4, 1981
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 127653
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MIA81FLA09
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA81FLA09

## NTSB brief (aircraft 2)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3404  80/12/13   ORMOND BEACH,FL     PIPER PA-44         CR-  0  0  3  INSTRUCTIONAL             ATP,FLIGHT INSTR., AGE
        TIME - 2020                    N257ER              PX-  0  0  0  DUAL                      25, 2869 TOTAL HOURS, 70
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  1                            IN TYPE, INSTRUMENT
                                                                                                   RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - ORMOND BEACH
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          DAYTONA BEACH,FL            LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH ON GROUND                  STATIC: ENGINE RUNUP
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PERSONNEL - MISCELLANEOUS-PERSONNEL: PILOT OF OTHER AIRCRAFT
        REMARKS- N2577C TAXIED INTO N257ER THAT WAS HOLDING IN THE RUNUP AREA.
```

## NTSB brief (aircraft 1)

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3-3404  80/12/13   ORMOND BEACH,FL     PIPER PA-38         CR-  0  0  1  INSTRUCTIONAL             STUDENT, AGE 23, 128
        TIME - 2020                    N2577C              PX-  0  0  0  TRAINING                  TOTAL HOURS, ALL IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  3                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - ORMOND BEACH
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          VERO BEACH,FL               LOCAL
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           COLLISION WITH AIRCRAFT: BOTH ON GROUND                  TAXI: TO TAKEOFF
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - MISJUDGED DISTANCE AND SPEED
        REMARKS- N2577C TAXIED INTO N257ER THAT WAS HOLDING IN THE RUNUP AREA.
```

## Aircraft 1

- Registration: [N2577C](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2577C-1982-08-17), registration cancelled 1982-08-17, S/N 38-79A0239, built 1978 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-38
- Registry model: [Piper PA-38-112](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-38-112) (registry code 7103812) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Ormond Beach

## Aircraft 2

- Registration: N257ER (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-44
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Ormond Beach

## FAA reports on this event (2)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19801213075641A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19801213075641A), Dec 13, 1980: Piper PA38112, Ormond Beach, FL, Substantial damage. On unauthorized night cross-country, taxied too fast on taxiway. Tried but failed to lift over N257ER on runup pad.
- [Accident 19801213075642A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19801213075642A), Dec 13, 1980: Piper PA44180, Ormond Beach, FL, Substantial damage. Was struck by fast taxiing airplane N2577C while holding on runup pad. N2577C tried to lift off to avoid collision.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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