# NTSB MIA85FA041: Piper PA-28-181, N82108, Orlando, FL, November 21, 1984

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Fatal · Field investigation · Final report
- Date: November 21, 1984, 11:58 local (16:58 UTC)
- Place: Orlando, FL
- Coordinates: 28.369907, -81.54988 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=28.3699&lon=-81.5499&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Enroute](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/400) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Fatal
- Injuries: 3 fatal
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 31214
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MIA85FA041
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/31214/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA85FA041

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanical, cruise - normal
  - fluid,fuel - exhaustion (contributing factor)
  - fuel supply - inadequate, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - aircraft preflight - poor, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - fuel consumption calculations - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of total experience, pilot in command (cause)
- Forced landing, descent - emergency
- In flight collision with object, descent - uncontrolled
  - object - utility pole (contributing factor)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - uncontrolled
  - terrain condition - ground
  - object - vehicle

## Analysis

NUMEROUS WITNESSES HEARD THE ENGINE SPUTTER AND THEN STOP. THE EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THE PILOT ATTEMPTED AN EMERGENCY LANDING AT THE PARKING LOT. WHILE MANEUVERING AT VERY LOW ALTITUDES AND AIRSPEEDS, THE LEFT WING HIT A LIGHT POLE. THE PRIVATE PILOT HAD A TOTAL OF 79 HOURS LOGGED. NO FUEL WAS FOUND IN THE LINES OR IN THE FUEL TANKS.

## Aircraft

- Registration: N82108 (not matched to a registry record)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-181
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 288090299
- Airframe hours: 11729
- Engines: LYCOMING O-360-A4M 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Destroyed
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Raymond E. Allen
- Registered owner: Gordon B. Bailey
- Last inspection: 100 hour, October 5, 1984, 66 hours before
- Departed: GMU, GREENVILLE, SC
- Destination: ISM, KISSIMMEE, FL
- Flight plan: VFR

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 30; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; toxicology performed; flight hours: 82 total, 54 in this make and model, 25 as pilot in command, 38 in the last 90 days, 38 in the last 30 days, 38 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 60° at 8 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 2,400 ft broken
- Temperature: 72 °F, dew point 66 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: MCO, 14 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19841121062649A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19841121062649A), Nov 21, 1984: Piper PA28181, Orlando, FL, Destroyed, 2 fatal. The engine failed from fuel exhaustion. The aircraft struck a light pole and cars in a parking lot on the landing.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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