# NTSB MIA88LA029: Piper PA-44-180, N269ER, Daytona Beach, FL, November 8, 1987

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 8, 1987, 15:00 local (20:00 UTC)
- Place: Daytona Beach, FL
- Location: 29.1799° N, 81.0580° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs at DAYTONA BEACH INTL (DAB), within about a mile (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=29.1799&lon=-81.0580&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report February 24, 1989
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 32084
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MIA88LA029
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/32084/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA88LA029

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - flare - excessive, dual student (cause)
  - airspeed(vref) - not maintained, dual student (cause)
  - supervision - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)

## Analysis

WHILE PRACTICING SHORT FIELD LANDINGS, THE STUDENT PLT FLARED THE ACFT PREMATURELY RESULTING IN A HARD LANDING & SUBSTANTIAL DAMAGE. THE ACFT WAS THEN TAXIED TO THE RAMP.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N269ER](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N269ER-2013-03-26), registration cancelled 2013-03-26, S/N 44-8195011, built 1980 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-44-180
- Registry model: [Piper PA-44-180](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-44-180) (registry code 7104402) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming I0360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-i0360-series) (registry code 41515, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 448195011
- Airframe hours: 6358
- Engines: LYCOMING O-360-E1A67 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Operator: Phoenix East Aviation, Inc.
- Registered owner: Phoenix East Aviation Inc
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Airport: DAB, Daytona Beach Regional, runway 7L, 7,500 × 150 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 23; flight instructor, commercial; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; flight hours: 720 total

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 80° at 9 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 10,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 75 °F, dew point 64 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: DAB

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19871108066199A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19871108066199A), Nov 8, 1987: Piper PA44180, Daytona Beach, FL, Substantial damage. Student made a hard landing with CFI on board. Found fuselage and a wing damaged after taxiing to the ramp.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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