# NTSB MIA92LA168: Piper PA-28-140, N8410R, Oak Hill, FL, August 29, 1992

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: August 29, 1992, 09:50 local (13:50 UTC)
- Place: Oak Hill, FL
- Coordinates: 28.860252, -80.850814 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=28.8603&lon=-80.8508&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report September 14, 1993
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 33124
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MIA92LA168
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/33124/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA92LA168

## Probable cause

FAILURE OF THE PILOT-IN-COMMAND TO LEVEL OFF DURING THE SIMULATED FORCED LANDING.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - emergency procedure - simulated, pilot in command
  - level off - not performed, pilot in command (cause)
  - object - tree(s)

## Analysis

THE PLT WAS DEMONSTRATING THE PROCEDURES FOR A FORCED LANDING. DURING THE DESCENT FOR THE SIMULATED FORCED LANDING, THE ACFT CLEARED 50-FOOT-TALL TREES BY 25 FEET, THEN DESCENDED UNTIL IMPACT WITH THE GROUND. DURING THE LANDING ROLL, THE RT WING SEPARATED AFTER CONTRACTING A TREE. THE PIC DID NOT STATE TO THE PAX WHAT ALTITUDE HE WOULD ABORT THE PROCEDURE. THE PAX STATED THAT THERE WAS NO ENG FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8410R](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8410R-2012-11-13), registration cancelled 2012-11-13, S/N 28-22346, built 1966 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-140
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-22346
- Airframe hours: 2700
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-E2A 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Goethe, Edward K. Jr.
- Registered owner: Goethe, Edward K. Jr.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Utility; Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, October 8, 1991, 30 hours before
- Departed: X21, TITUSVILLE, FL

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 35; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 390 total, 64 in this make and model, 295 as pilot in command, 7 in the last 90 days, 2 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 240° at 13 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 14,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 82 °F, dew point 75 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: DAB, 23 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19920829034139A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19920829034139A), Aug 29, 1992: Piper PA28140, Oak Hill, FL, Substantial damage. Demonstrating a simulated forced landing failed arrest descent clearing trees. Impacted ground then a tree.

## Other investigations on N8410R (3)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB SEA77FYA21](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/SEA77FYA21), Jun 5, 1977: Piper PA-28 (N8410R), Nampa, ID, substantial damage
- [NTSB OAK68D0032](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/OAK68D0032), Jun 10, 1967: Piper PA-28 (N8410R), Lower Lake, CA, substantial damage
- [NTSB OAK67D0237](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/OAK67D0237), Mar 4, 1967: Piper PA-28 (N8410R), Palo Alto, CA, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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