# NTSB MIA93LA203: Piper PA-28-161, N8258A, St Augustine, FL, October 4, 1992 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report - Date: October 4, 1992, 10:45 local (14:45 UTC) - Place: St Augustine, FL - Coordinates: 30.010423, -81.410491 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=30.0104&lon=-81.4105&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report February 8, 1996 - Report: Approved by Office Director - NTSB case key (mKey): 37399 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MIA93LA203 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/37399/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA93LA203 ## Probable cause FAILURE OF THE INSTRUCTOR PILOT (CFI) TO ASSURE ADEQUATE COMPENSATION FOR WIND CONDITIONS. FACTORS RELATED TO THE ACCIDENT WERE: THE CROSSWIND AND TURBULENT WEATHER CONDITIONS. ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - In flight encounter with weather, approach - vfr pattern - final approach - weather condition - crosswind (contributing factor) - weather condition - turbulence (contributing factor) - compensation for wind conditions - inadequate, pilot in command(cfi) (cause) - On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll - object - airport sign/marker ## Analysis The flight instructor (CFI) stated that the student pilot was practicing takeoffs and landings (on runway 31). The wind was reported to be from 220 degrees at 15 knots with gusts. During an approach to land, they encountered turbulence. At about 10 feet or less, the airplane rolled uncontrollably to the right. The CFI took control of the airplane and landed on grass beside the runway. During the rollout, the right wing collided with a distance remaining marker. This accident was reported to the NTSB by the FAA on October 4, 1995, after they were informed by an anonymous caller. ## Factual narrative On October 4, 1992, about 1045 eastern daylight time, a Piper PA-28-161, N8258A, registered to Aero Sport, Inc., was substantially damaged during landing at the St. Augustine airport, St. Augustine, Florida. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time and no flight plan was filed for the 14 CFR part 91 instructional flight. The certified flight instructor and student were not injured. The flight originated at the St. Augustine Airport about 15 minutes earlier, the same day. The pilot stated that the student pilot was practicing takeoffs and landings. During the final approach to landing at about 10 feet or less, the airplane rolled uncontrollably 80 degrees to the right. He took control of the airplane and landed on the grass parallel to runway 31. During the rollout the right wing collided with a distance remaining marker. The accident was reported to the NTSB by the FAA on October 4, 1995, after they were informed by an anonymous caller. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N8258A](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8258A-2013-04-09), registration cancelled 2013-04-09, S/N 28-8116020, built 1980 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-161 - Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 28-8116020 - Airframe hours: 5996 - Engines: LYCOMING O-320-D3G 160 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Instructional, Part 91 - Registered owner: Aero Sport, Inc - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Utility; Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Annual, October 10, 1991, 375 hours before - Departed: SGJ - Airport: SGJ, St Augustine, runway 31, 8,000 × 150 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot; age 55; airline transport, commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: single-engine sea, multi-engine sea, multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 1, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: right; flight hours: 6,050 total, 45 in this make and model, 5,760 as pilot in command ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 220° at 15 knots, gusting 5 - Visibility: 10 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: 3,500 ft broken - Temperature: 75 °F ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 19921004057059A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19921004057059A), Oct 4, 1992: Piper PA28161, St Augustine, FL, Substantial damage. Student allowed aircraft to roll 80 degrees right on short final. CFI took over. Landed on grass. Struck marker. From the NTSB's public API. 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