# NTSB MKC83LA107: Cessna 150G, N8317J, Fredonia, KS, May 9, 1983

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: May 9, 1983, 10:15 local (15:15 UTC)
- Place: Fredonia, KS
- Coordinates: 37.52972, -95.820579 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=37.5297&lon=-95.8206&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 33410
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MKC83LA107
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/33410/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC83LA107

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Hard landing, landing - flare/touchdown
  - flare - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - recovery from bounced landing - improper, pilot in command (cause)
  - overconfidence in personal ability, pilot in command (cause)
  - lack of recent total experience, pilot in command (cause)
  - inadequate recurrent training, pilot in command (cause)
- Nose gear collapsed, landing - flare/touchdown
  - landing gear,nose gear - overload (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE ACFT BOUNCED DURING LANDING & THEN LANDED HARD ON THE NOSE GEAR WHICH COLLAPSED. THE PLT STATED THERE WAS LOW-LEVEL TURBULENCE. THE PLT WAS NOT ENTERED INTO ANY FORMAL TRAINING PROGRAM NOR DID HE HAVE AN INSTRUCTOR. HE HAD ACCUMULATED ABOUT 12 HRS OF DUAL BETWEEN 1975 & 1980. HE MOST RECENT DUAL WAS NOT WITH A CFI.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8317J](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N8317J), registered now, S/N 15066217, built 1967 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 150G
- Registry model: [Cessna 150G](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-150g) (registry code 2071816) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental 0-200 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-0-200-series) (registry code 17020, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 15066217
- Airframe hours: 2800
- Engines: CONTINENTAL O-200A 100 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Fun Flyers Of Fredonia, Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, July 2, 1982, 0 hours before
- Airport: 1K7, Fredonia, runway 17, 2,430 × 30 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 56; student; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: left; flight hours: 18 total, 18 in this make and model, 6 as pilot in command, 4 in the last 90 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 150° at 13 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 63 °F, dew point 48 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: CNU, 18 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19830509019919A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19830509019919A), May 9, 1983: Cessna 150G, Fredonia, KS, Substantial damage. Student pilot bounced on landing. Aircraft was allowed to hit nose first. Lacked instructor and endorsement.

## Other investigations on N8317J (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC67F0568](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC67F0568), Mar 20, 1967: Cessna 150 (N8317J), Simsbury, CT, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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