# NTSB MKC86LA001: Piper PA-28-140, N8047N, Kansas City, MO, October 3, 1985

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: October 3, 1985, 15:10 local (20:10 UTC)
- Place: Kansas City, MO
- Coordinates: 39.050586, -94.490112 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.0506&lon=-94.4901&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 34097
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=MKC86LA001
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/34097/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MKC86LA001

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - in flight, takeoff - initial climb
  - airspeed(vlof) - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - stall/mush - not corrected, pilot in command (cause)
- Forced landing, takeoff - initial climb
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - flare/touchdown
  - object - utility pole(marked) (contributing factor)

## Analysis

THE PIPER PA-28-140 WAS DEPARTING THE KANSAS CITY, MO AREA FOR A VFR, NO FLIGHT-PLAN FLIGHT TO WARRENSBURG, MO. WITNESSES STATED THAT THE AIRPLANE APPEARED TO LIFT OFF PREMATURELY AND REMAINED EFFECTIVELY STALLED UNTIL IMPACT TWO MIN LATER IN A DRIVE-IN-THEATER. THE PROPELLER AND WINGS IMPACTED THE SPEAKER POLES. A POST-IMPACT FUEL LEAK STARTED AN ENGINE COMPARTMENT FIRE.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8047N](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8047N-2014-11-19), registration cancelled 2014-11-19, S/N 28-25293, built 1968 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28-140
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 2825293
- Airframe hours: 3237
- Engines: LYCOMING O-320-E2A 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Fire: On-Ground
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: T.W. Lanier
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, August 15, 1985, 29 hours before
- Departed: M006, KANSAS CITY, MO
- Destination: 9K4, WARRENSBURG, MO
- Airport: Unknown

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 63 total, 15 in this make and model, 37 as pilot in command, 40 in the last 90 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 210° at 15 knots
- Visibility: 20 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 12,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 70 °F, dew point 52 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: MCI, 7 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 19851003048829A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/19851003048829A), Oct 3, 1985: Piper PA28140, Kansas City, MO, Substantial damage. Witnesses stated that aircraft lifted off prematurely and flew in a stalled condition to impact.

## Other investigations on N8047N (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB IAD71DIG11](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/IAD71DIG11), Aug 30, 1970: Piper PA-28 (N8047N), Fallston, MD, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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