# NTSB NYC00LA149: Piper PA-28-161, N8234L, Miamisburg, OH, June 2, 2000

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: June 1, 2000, 21:45 local (Jun 2, 2000, 01:45 UTC)
- Place: Miamisburg, OH
- Coordinates: 39.629322, -84.26995 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.6293&lon=-84.2699&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report March 2, 2001
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 49337
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC00LA149
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/49337/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC00LA149

## Probable cause

The CFI's delayed remedial action.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight collision with object, approach - vfr pattern - final approach
  - object - approach light/navaid
  - proper glidepath - not maintained, dual student
  - light condition - dark night
  - remedial action - delayed, pilot in command(cfi) (cause)

## Analysis

While landing, during the student pilot's first night flight, the CFI noticed that the visual approach slope indicator (VASI) was 'red over red.'  The CFI then heard the engine power begin to increase and assumed that the student was correcting to get back on glide path.  Realizing that the student was not adding enough power to correct, the CFI reached for the throttle.  The airplane then impacted lighting stanchions located at the approach end of the runway, and came to rest in a grass area.  The CFI stated that he was unfamiliar with the fact that there were approach lighting stanchions at the approach end of the runway, and that they were not illuminated at the time of the accident.

## Factual narrative

On June 1, 2000, about 2145 Eastern Daylight Time, a Piper PA-28-161, N8234L, was substantially damaged while landing at the Dayton Wright Brothers Airport, Miamisburg, Ohio.  The certificated flight instructor (CFI) and student pilot were not injured.  Night visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a visual flight rules flight plan was filed for the instructional flight conducted under 14 CFR Part 91.

According to the CFI, the student was on his first night "sortie," and was at the controls.  While on final approach to Runway 20, the CFI noticed that the visual approach slope indicator (VASI) was "red over red."  The CFI then heard the engine power begin to increase and assumed that the student was correcting to get back on glide path.  Realizing that the student was not adding enough power to correct, the CFI reached for the throttle and heard a bang.  The airplane touched down short of the runway and came to rest in a grassy area.

When the CFI exited the airplane, he noticed that it had impacted approach lighting stanchions that were located at the approach end of the runway.

The CFI additionally stated that he was unfamiliar with the fact that there were approach lighting stanchions at the approach end of the runway, and that they were not illuminated at the time of the accident.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N8234L](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8234L-2013-05-30), registration cancelled 2013-05-30, S/N 28-8016353, built 1980 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper PA-28-161
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-8016393
- Airframe hours: 10302
- Engines: Lycoming O-320-D3G 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Instructional, Part 91
- Registered owner: Wright Patterson Afb Aero Club
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: 100 hour, May 25, 2000, 100 hours before
- Departed: FF0, WPAFB, OH
- Destination: MGY, MIAMISBURG, OH
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: MGY, Dayton Wright Brothers, runway 2, 5,000 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 66; commercial, flight instructor; airplane ratings: multi-engine land, single-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; seat: right; flight hours: 6,826 total, 2,394 in this make and model, 5,900 as pilot in command, 45 in the last 90 days, 26 in the last 30 days, 1 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Night/dark
- Wind: 200° at 7 knots
- Visibility: 9 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 79 °F, dew point 64 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: MGY

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20000601036949A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20000601036949A), Jun 1, 2000: Piper PA28161, Dayton, OH, No damage. (-23) Instructor giving student training, aircraft hit obstacle on approach to landing damaging right main landing gear. Aircraft landed short of runway 20,…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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