# NTSB NYC01LA031: Piper J3C-65, N33538, Middletown, NY, November 7, 2000

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Serious injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 7, 2000, 11:00 local (16:00 UTC)
- Place: Middletown, NY
- Coordinates: 41.440666, -74.420021 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.4407&lon=-74.4200&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Initial climb](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/350) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Serious injuries
- Injuries: 1 serious, 1 minor
- Status: Completed, report July 10, 2001
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 50605
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC01LA031
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/50605/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC01LA031

## Probable cause

A total loss of engine power for undetermined reasons.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of engine power(total) - nonmechanical, takeoff - initial climb
  - reason for occurrence undetermined (cause)
- In flight collision with terrain/water, descent - emergency

## Analysis

The pilot stated that he performed a preflight inspection of the airplane, started the engine, and let it idle for 10 minutes.  He then taxied to the runway, performed a run-up, and departed.  About 150 feet above the ground, the engine lost all power.  Examination of the wreckage by a FAA inspector did not reveal any pre-impact mechanical malfunctions. The inspector noted that sufficient fuel was onboard the airplane, and there was no evidence of fuel contamination. The pilot reported that the engine was manufactured in 1963, and had approximately 800 hours of operation since overhaul.  The owner stated that the last overhaul was performed sometime during the 1970's.  A witness reported that the fuel valve was in the 'on' position when he first arrived at the accident site.  The pilot believed that the fuel valve might have vibrated partially closed during the accident flight.

## Factual narrative

On November 7, 2000, about 1100 Eastern Standard Time, a Piper J3C-65, NC33538, was substantially damaged during a forced landing after takeoff from Lewis Landing Airport (NK79), near Middletown, New York.  The certificated recreational pilot sustained minor injuries, and the passenger was seriously injured.  Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan was filed for the local personal flight conducted under 14 CFR Part 91.

The pilot stated that he started the engine, and let it "warm up" for 10 minutes.  Then he taxied to Runway 26 at NK79, and performed a run-up.  Everything seemed normal, and he departed Runway 26.  About 150 feet above the ground, the engine lost all power.  The pilot performed a forced landing into trees, and the airplane came to rest on its right side.

The pilot added that the airplane "felt like it ran out of fuel."  However, he stated that there was plenty of fuel onboard, and the fuel selector was selected to the "on" position.  He further stated that the fuel selector would have to be "on" for the airplane to idle for 10 minutes, taxi, and run-up.  He believed that the fuel valve might have vibrated partially closed.

A Federal Aviation Administration inspector examined the airplane.  While rotating the crankshaft by hand, he obtained thumb compression and confirmed valve train continuity on all cylinders.  He also rotated both magnetos by hand, and they produced spark at all leads.

The inspector added that fuel was leaking out of the airplane after the accident, and a witness moved the fuel selector to the "off" position.  After the scene was secure, the witness felt that he should leave the airplane as it was found immediately after the accident, and moved the fuel selector back to the "on" position.

The inspector did not observe fuel in the carburetor, but did observe fuel in the gascolator.  However, he reiterated that the airplane was somewhat inverted and the fuel selector was moved from "on" to "off" to "on".  Additionally, the fuel appeared absent of contamination.

According to the pilot, the airplane engine was manufactured in 1963.  It had a total time of 1240.2 hours, and 800.2 hours since overhaul.  The owner stated that he misplaced the engine logbook, and was not sure of the exact date of overhaul.  He believed the engine was last overhauled sometime during the 1970's.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N33538](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N33538), registered now, S/N 2366A, built 1945 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper J3C-65
- Registry model: [Piper J3C-65](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j3c-65) (registry code 7100510) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Continental A&C65 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/continental-a-c65-series) (registry code 17003, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 2366-A
- Airframe hours: 1286
- Engines: Continental A-65-8 65 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Gordon W. Bruce
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, September 15, 2000, 22 hours before
- Departed: NK79, SLATE HILL, NY
- Airport: NK79, Lewis Landing Airport, runway 26, 2,200 × 50 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 49; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: rear; flight hours: 560 total, 46 in this make and model

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 270° at 6 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 46 °F, dew point 34 °F
- Altimeter: 30.00 inHg
- Observed at: MSV, 15 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20001107038919A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20001107038919A), Nov 7, 2000: Piper J3C65, Greenville, NY, Substantial damage. (-23) On nov. 7, 2000, the flight departed a private runway at lewis landing. The a/c departed the runway and climbed to approx. 50 feet AGL when the engine…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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