# NTSB NYC01LA039: Grumman American AA-5B, N45175, Montauk, NY, November 17, 2000

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 17, 2000, 15:00 local (20:00 UTC)
- Place: Montauk, NY
- Coordinates: 41.039695, -71.940818 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.0397&lon=-71.9408&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report May 8, 2001
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 50643
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC01LA039
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/50643/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC01LA039

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain runway alignment during touchdown and rollout.  Factors in the accident were the pilot's inadequate crosswind compensation, and inadequate flare.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing
  - weather condition - gusts
  - compensation for wind conditions - inadequate, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - flare - inadequate, pilot in command (contributing factor)
  - proper alignment - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing
  - object - tree(s)

## Analysis

After arriving in the airport area, the pilot maneuvered the airplane onto final for a full stop landing to Runway 24. Configured with full flaps, he maintained 75 knots of indicated airspeed, slightly higher than normal because of reported wind gusts at the airport.  He also maintained a wind drift correction of 20 degrees.  Even though the winds were reported as 280 degrees at 12 knots, gusting to 21 knots, the pilot experienced no turbulence while on final. Once over the runway, the pilot began to align the airplane with the runway for landing, when it touched-down unexpectedly, and veered off to the right.  The pilot applied left rudder and left brake, but was unable to get the airplane back onto the runway.  The pilot decided to executed a go-around.  He advanced the throttle, but quickly realized the airplane would not clear some trees to the front.  He then aborted the go-around by closing the throttle and mixture.  The airplane impacted the trees, and the airplane came to a stop.

## Factual narrative

On November 17, 2000, about 1500 Eastern Standard Time, a Grumman American AA-5B, N45175, was substantially damaged during an aborted landing at the Montauk Airport (MTP), Montauk, New York.  The certificate private pilot and passenger were not injured.  Visual Meteorological conditions prevailed for the personal flight that departed Igor I. Sikorsky Memorial Airport (BDR), Bridgeport, Connecticut, destined for Montauk.  No flight plan was filed for the flight conducted under 14 CFR Part 91.

According to the pilot, after arriving in the airport area, he maneuvered the airplane onto final for a full stop landing to Runway 24.  Configured with full flaps, the pilot maintained 75 knots of indicated airspeed, "slightly" higher than normal because of the reported winds at the airport.  He also had to maintain a wind drift correction of 20 degrees, but experienced no turbulence while on final.

When the pilot began to align the airplane with the runway for landing, it touched-down unexpectedly, and veered off to the right.  The pilot applied left rudder and left brake, but was unable to get the airplane back onto the runway.  The pilot decided to execute a go-around.  He advanced the throttle, but quickly realized the airplane would not clear some trees to the front.  He aborted his go-around by closing the throttle and mixture.  The airplane impacted the trees, came to a stop, and both occupants exited under their own power.

Weather recorded at the airport approximately 6 minutes before the accident included winds from 280 degrees at 12 knots gusting to 21 knots.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N45175](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N45175), registered now, S/N AA5B1036, built 1978 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Grumman American AA-5B
- Registry model: [Gulfstream American AA-5B](https://openairdocs.org/model/gulfstream-american-aa-5b) (registry code 3970106) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming O&VO-360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (registry code 41514, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 1036
- Airframe hours: 6167
- Engines: Lycoming O-360 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Carney Aviation
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, February 2, 2000, 275 hours before
- Departed: BDR, BRIDGEPORT, CT
- Destination: MTP
- Airport: MTP, Montaul Airport, runway 24, 3,258 × 85 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 53; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; seat: left; flight hours: 205 total, 191 in this make and model, 114 as pilot in command, 37 in the last 90 days, 14 in the last 30 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 280° at 12 knots, gusting 21
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 52 °F, dew point 34 °F
- Altimeter: 29.00 inHg
- Observed at: MTP

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20001117038969A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20001117038969A), Nov 17, 2000: Amrgen AA5B, Montauk, NY, No damage. (-23) Pilot in command landed on runway 24 with a crosswind of 340 degree at 1T knots gusting to 25 knots. The a/c touched down in a forward slip and skidded…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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