# NTSB NYC01LA182: Piper PA-28-181, N17AV, Mattituck, NY, July 21, 2001 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report - Date: July 21, 2001, 14:15 local (18:15 UTC) - Place: Mattituck, NY - Coordinates: 40.999195, -72.530166 (estimated) - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=40.9992&lon=-72.5302&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 4 uninjured - Status: Completed, report November 6, 2001 - Report: Approved by Office Director - Parties: FAA/FSDO - NTSB case key (mKey): 52773 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC01LA182 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/52773/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC01LA182 ## Probable cause The pilot's failure to attain a proper touchdown point. A factor was the tailwind. ## Sequence of events In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf). - Overrun, landing - weather condition - tailwind (contributing factor) - proper touchdown point - not attained, pilot in command (cause) ## Analysis The pilot followed another airplane into the airport, and landed about halfway down the 2,200-foot runway at a high rate of speed. The airplane then departed the end of the runway at 10-15 mph. The pilot stated that the windsock indicated winds varying from approximately 35-80 degrees off the runway heading, but that during the approach, the wind shifted to a tailwind. Recorded winds at an airport 10 nautical miles away also indicated a tailwind. According to the Pilot's Operating Handbook, at 2,500 pounds, with a full-stall touchdown and full flaps in a zero wind, the airplane should have required about 950 feet of runway. With a 5-knot tailwind, it should have required about 1,280 feet of runway. ## Factual narrative On July 21, 2001, about 1415 eastern daylight time, a Piper PA-28-181, N17AV, was substantially damaged during an overrun at Mattituck Airbase (21N), Mattituck, New York. The certificated private pilot and three passengers were not injured. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time of the accident. No flight plan had been filed for the flight, between Igor I. Sikorsky Memorial Airport (BDR), Bridgeport, Connecticut, and Mattituck. The personal flight was conducted under 14 CFR Part 91. According to the pilot, while approaching the airport, he observed a Mooney on a 4-mile final to runway 01. He followed the Mooney, but when he was on final, saw that it had not yet cleared the runway, and executed a go-around. At the time, the windsock indicated that the winds were from the west-northwest. The pilot completed the next approach, and the airplane touched down, with full flaps, 200-300 feet from the runway threshold. The pilot felt that the touchdown speed was faster than he was accustomed to, but felt an aborted landing would have been too dangerous, since there were trees at the end of the runway. The pilot attempted to stop the airplane on the runway; however, the braking was limited. The airplane approached the departure end of the runway at an estimated 10-15 mph. It then rolled off the end of the runway and struck trees. The pilot felt that during the approach, the wind had shifted to a "significant" tailwind. According to a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector, witnesses reported that the airplane landed about halfway down the runway at a high rate of speed. The FAA inspector also noted that wind indications could be different at each end of the runway. Runway 01 was 2,200 feet in length, and 130 feet in width, with trees at the northern end. According to the PA-28-181 Pilot's Operating Handbook, the landing roll at sea level pressure, 25 degrees Centigrade, a gross weight of 2,500 pounds, full flaps, full-stall touchdown, and a zero-wind condition should have been approximately 950 feet. A 5-knot tailwind (the maximum for which data was provided) should have required about 1,280 feet. Winds, recorded at an airport about 10 nautical miles to the southwest at the approximate time of the accident, were from 200 degrees true, at 9 knots. The temperature was 24 degrees Centigrade. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N17AV](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N17AV), registered now, S/N 28-8390078, built 1983 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: Piper PA-28-181 - Registry model: [Piper PA-28-181](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-181) (registry code 7102807) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming O&VO-360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (registry code 41514, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 28-8390078 - Engines: Lycoming O-360 180 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Personal, Part 91 - Registered owner: Westchester Flying Club - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: 100 hour, March 31, 2001, 90 hours before - Departed: BDR, Bridgeport, CT - Destination: 21N, Mattituck, NY - Airport: 21N, Mattituck Airbase, runway 01, 2,200 × 130 ft, asphalt ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot; age 47; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--no waivers/lim.; last flight review August 6, 2001; seat: left; flight hours: 821 total, 522 in this make and model, 763 as pilot in command, 4 in the last 90 days, 3 in the last 30 days ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 200° at 9 knots - Visibility: 10 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 75 °F, dew point 63 °F - Altimeter: 30.07 inHg - Observed at: FOK, 10 nm away ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 20010721038899A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20010721038899A), Jul 21, 2001: Piper PA28181, Mattituck, NY, No damage. (-23) At 1430 on 7/21/01, Mr. Teddy heichman, landed at Mattituck (21N) on runway 1, estimated touchdown point was a third of the way down the runway. Tire… From the NTSB's public API. 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