# NTSB NYC04LA025: Piper PA-28-151, N41977, Quantico, VA, November 1, 2003

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Limited investigation · Final report
- Date: November 1, 2003, 14:15 local (19:15 UTC)
- Place: Quantico, VA
- Coordinates: 38.501667, -77.305274
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=38.5017&lon=-77.3053&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report October 28, 2004
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: FAA/FSDO
- NTSB case key (mKey): 58300
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC04LA025
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/58300/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC04LA025

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during landing.  A factor was the tail wind.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Loss of control - on ground/water, landing - roll
  - directional control - not maintained, pilot in command (cause)
  - weather condition - tailwind (contributing factor)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - wall/barricade

## Analysis

The pilot touched down on runway 02, which was 4,279 feet long, 200 feet wide, with an asphalt surface, about 500 feet beyond the approach end of the runway.  As he applied the brakes, the right brake "seemed to pull harder than the left," and he immediately released the brake pressure.  The pilot applied left rudder to compensate for the situation, and the airplane began to "fishtail" down the runway.  The airplane traveled off the right side of the runway, and impacted a concrete block, shearing off the right landing gear and damaging the right wing.  Examination of the airplane revealed no pre-impact mechanical deficiencies with the airplane, and no skid marks were observed on the runway.  The winds were reported to be from 190 degrees at 6 knots.  The pilot reported 89 hours of total flight experience, 5 of which were in make and model.

## Factual narrative

On November 1, 2003, at 1415 eastern standard time, a Piper PA-28-151, N41977, was substantially damaged while landing at the Quantico Marine Corps Airfield/Turner Field (NYG), Quantico, Virginia.  The certificated private pilot was not injured.  Visual meteorological conditions prevailed, and no flight plan was filed for the flight which originated at the Middle Peninsula Regional Airport (FYJ), West Point, Virginia.  The personal flight was conducted under 14 CFR Part 91.

According to the pilot, he touched down on runway 02, about 500 feet beyond the approach end of the runway.  As he applied the brakes, the right brake "seemed to pull harder than the left," and he immediately released the brake pressure.  The pilot applied left rudder to compensate for the situation, and the airplane began to "fishtail" down the runway.  The airplane traveled off the right side of the runway, and impacted a concrete block, shearing off the right landing gear and damaging the right wing.

The airplane was examined by a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) inspector and substantial damage was noted to the right wing spar.  The inspector was unable to examine the right brake, due to the extensive impact damage to the right landing gear.  However, according to the inspector, no skid marks were observed on the runway.  Runway 02 was 4,279 feet long, 200 feet wide, with an asphalt surface.

The pilot reported 89 hours of total flight experience, 5 of which were in make and model.

Weather reported at the time of the accident included a few clouds at 20,000 feet, 7 miles visibility, and wind from 190 degrees at 6 knots.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N41977](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N41977), registered now, S/N 28-7415375, built 1974 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper PA-28-151
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-151](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-151) (registry code 7102805) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-7415375
- Airframe hours: 3079
- Engines: Lycoming O-320 150 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Quantico Flying Club
- Registered owner: David Burnett
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, October 15, 2003, 22 hours before
- Departed: FYJ, West Point, VA
- Destination: NYG, Quantico, VA
- Airport: NYG, Quantico Marine/Turner Field, runway 2, 4,279 × 200 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 43; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, valid medical--w/ waivers/lim; last flight review August 6, 2003; seat: left; flight hours: 89 total, 7 in this make and model, 23 as pilot in command, 13 in the last 90 days, 6 in the last 30 days, 2 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 190° at 6 knots
- Visibility: 7 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 70 °F, dew point 59 °F
- Altimeter: 30.19 inHg
- Observed at: NYG

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20031101035539A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20031101035539A), Nov 1, 2003: Piper PA28151, Quantico, VA, Substantial damage. (-23) Pilot landed aircraft and lost directional control of the aircraft. He departed the runway to the right. The aircraft came to rest off the side of the…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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