# NTSB NYC05CA122: Gulfstream American AA-5A, N26784, Schroon Lake, NY, July 21, 2005

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: July 21, 2005, 09:30 local (13:30 UTC)
- Place: Schroon Lake, NY
- Coordinates: 43.862499, -73.7425
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=43.8625&lon=-73.7425&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 1 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report October 27, 2005
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: FAA Albany FSDO
- NTSB case key (mKey): 62018
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC05CA122
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/62018/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC05CA122

## Probable cause

The pilot's misjudgment of speed/distance which resulted in an overrun.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- Overrun, landing - roll
  - distance/speed - misjudged, pilot in command (cause)
  - proper touchdown point - not obtained, pilot in command (cause)
- On ground/water collision with object, landing - roll
  - object - other

## Analysis

The airplane was on approach to a 3,012-foot-long, asphalt runway.  The pilot reported that the airplane did not touch down until mid-field, and he was not able to stop before the airplane departed the end of the runway.  The airplane struck a wood pile, and came to rest about 500 feet beyond the departure end of the runway.  The pilot did not report any mechanical malfunctions.

## Factual narrative

On July 21, 2005, about 0930 eastern daylight time, a Gulfstream American Corp. AA-5A, N26784, was substantially damaged while landing at the Schroon Lake Airport, Schroon Lake, New York.  The certificated private pilot was not injured.  Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and a visual flight rules flight plan had been filed for the flight that departed Bridgeport, Connecticut.  The personal flight was conducted under 14 CFR Part 91.

The airplane was on approach to runway 34, a 3,012-foot-long, 60-foot-wide, asphalt runway.

The pilot reported that the airplane did not touch down until mid-field, and he was not able to stop before the airplane departed the end of the runway.  The airplane struck a wood pile, and came to rest about 500 feet beyond the departure end of the runway.

The pilot reported 918 hours of total flight experience, all in the same make and model as the accident airplane.  He did not report any mechanical malfunctions.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N26784](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N26784), registered now, S/N AA5A0717 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Gulfstream American Corp. AA-5A
- Registry model: [Gulfstream American AA-5A](https://openairdocs.org/model/gulfstream-american-aa-5a) (registry code 3970104) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: AA5A-0717
- Airframe hours: 6728
- Engines: Lycoming O360-A4K 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Registered owner: Carney Aviation Inc.
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Utility; Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, July 1, 2005
- Departed: BDR, Bridgeport, CT
- Destination: 4B7, Schroon Lake, NY
- Flight plan: VFR
- Airport: 4B7, Schroon Lake, runway 34, 3,012 × 60 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 62; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, without waivers/limitations; last flight review April 1, 2005; seat: left; flight hours: 918 total, 918 in this make and model, 4 in the last 90 days, 3 in the last 30 days, 3 in the last 24 hours

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Temperature: 73 °F, dew point 63 °F
- Altimeter: 29.97 inHg
- Observed at: GFL, 32 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20050721017339A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20050721017339A), Jul 21, 2005: Amrgen AA5A, Schroon Lake, NY, Substantial damage. (-23) On July 21, 2005 at 0930 a gruman AA5A piloted by the pilot [privacy data omitted] landed long at Schroon Lake, NY (4B7). The pilot [privacy data…

## Other investigations on N26784 (2)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB NYC86LA226](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC86LA226), Sep 1, 1986: Grumman AA-5A (N26784), So. Berwick, ME, substantial damage
- [NTSB CHI81DEP36](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/CHI81DEP36), Jul 16, 1981: Gulfstream AA-5A (N26784), Juneau, WI, substantial damage

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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