# NTSB NYC07CA181: Piper PA-28-161, N2893G, Winchester, VA, July 31, 2007

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: July 31, 2007, 15:29 local (19:29 UTC)
- Place: Winchester, VA
- Coordinates: 39.375556, -78.30722
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=39.3756&lon=-78.3072&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Takeoff](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/300) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report November 29, 2007
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: FAA/FSDO
- NTSB case key (mKey): 66340
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC07CA181
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/66340/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC07CA181

## Probable cause

The pilot's inadequate preflight planning.

## Sequence of events

In NTSB's coding before 2008 (https://www.ntsb.gov/GILS/Documents/codman.pdf).

- In flight collision with object, takeoff
  - preflight planning/preparation - inadequate, pilot in command (cause)
  - terrain condition - short runway/landing area
  - performance data - not calculated, pilot in command
  - object - tree(s)

## Analysis

During a takeoff attempt from a 1,500-foot turf airstrip, towards rising terrain, a Piper PA-28-161 impacted trees.  According to the pilot, during the preflight run-up, when the right magneto was selected, the engine dropped 500 rpm.  He attempted to "clean up the plugs," but the engine still "dropped" more rpm than when the left magneto was selected.  He selected "one notch of flaps" for takeoff.  During the takeoff roll, the airplane did not seem to accelerate as expected.  The pilot then selected a "second notch" of flaps at approximately 35 knots indicated airspeed.  At midfield, the airplane was still not airborne and the pilot became concerned about not having enough remaining runway; however, he decided to continue the takeoff.  The airplane became airborne, but would not climb.  The stall warning "went off," and the airplane struck trees.  The pilot added that the engine rpm always dropped more when the right magneto was selected rather than the left.  A review of the airplane's documentation by a Federal Aviation Administration inspector revealed that no weight and balance information was in the airplane.  A review of the accident airplane's information manual and original delivery documents revealed that under the conditions that existed at the time of the accident, the takeoff distance required to clear a 50-foot obstacle was approximately 1,500 feet and was based on the use of a "paved, level, dry runway."

## Factual narrative

During a takeoff attempt from a 1,500-foot turf airstrip, towards rising terrain, a Piper PA-28-161 impacted trees.  According to the pilot, during the preflight run-up, when the right magneto was selected, the engine dropped 500 rpm.  He attempted to "clean up the plugs," but the engine still "dropped" more rpm than when the left magneto was selected.  He selected "one notch of flaps" for takeoff.  During the takeoff roll, the airplane did not seem to accelerate as expected.  The pilot then selected a "second notch" of flaps at approximately 35 knots indicated airspeed.  At midfield, the airplane was still not airborne and the pilot became concerned about not having enough remaining runway; however, he decided to continue the takeoff.  The airplane became airborne, but would not climb.  The stall warning "went off," and the airplane struck trees.  The pilot added that the engine rpm always dropped more when the right magneto was selected rather than the left.  A review of the airplane's documentation by a Federal Aviation Administration inspector revealed that no weight and balance information was in the airplane.  A review of the accident airplane's information manual and original delivery documents revealed that under the conditions that existed at the time of the accident, the takeoff distance required to clear a 50-foot obstacle was approximately 1,500 feet and was based on the use of a "paved, level, dry runway."

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2893G](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N2893G-2010-01-12), registration cancelled 2010-01-12, S/N 28-7916518 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper PA-28-161
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-161](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-161) (registry code 7102803) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 28-7916518
- Airframe hours: 7828.7
- Engines: Lycoming O-320 160 hp reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, June 1, 2007, 8.45 hours before
- Departed: 9VG9, Winchester, VA
- Destination: 9VG9, Winchester, VA
- Airport: 9VG9, Jucapa Farms Airport, runway 16, 1,500 × 70 ft, grass/turf

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 40; injuries: minor; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, without waivers/limitations; last flight review March 1, 2007; seat: left; flight hours: 884 total, 645 in this make and model, 776 as pilot in command, 8 in the last 90 days, 8 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: calm
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 90 °F, dew point 55 °F
- Altimeter: 29.95 inHg
- Observed at: MRB, 15 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20070731017199A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20070731017199A), Jul 31, 2007: Piper PA28161, Winchester, VA, Substantial damage. (-23) Aircraft crashed while attempting to take off. Aircraft came to rest approximately 200 feet beyond departure end of runway 16 at 9VG9 in a thickly…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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