# NTSB NYC08CA094: Piper J3-C65, N2143M, Hollywood, FL, January 29, 2008

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: January 29, 2008, 13:30 local (18:30 UTC)
- Place: Hollywood, FL
- Coordinates: 26.001111, -80.240554
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=26.0011&lon=-80.2406&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 2 minor
- Status: Completed, report March 31, 2008
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: FAA/FSDO
- NTSB case key (mKey): 67475
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC08CA094
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/67475/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC08CA094

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to maintain directional control while landing. Contributing was the gusty crosswind condition.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Wind: crosswind](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034040): Environmental issues › Conditions/weather/phenomena · Not specified (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper J3C-65, 6 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034040/cases.md?model=7100510), [All aircraft, 1,008 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034040/cases.md)
- [Performance/control parameters: directional control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper J3C-65, 23 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md?model=7100510), [All aircraft, 3,958 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md)
- [Wind: gusts](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034045): Environmental issues › Conditions/weather/phenomena · Not specified (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper J3C-65, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034045/cases.md?model=7100510), [All aircraft, 1,199 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03034045/cases.md)
- [Object/animal/substance: sign/marker](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Contributed to outcome; cases with it: [Piper J3C-65, 2 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015/cases.md?model=7100510), [All aircraft, 214 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03022015/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Piper J3C-65, 28 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=7100510), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Piper J3C-65, 54 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=7100510), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The pilot of the Piper J3C-65 had been practicing banner towing operations, and was landing on runway 9L, a 3,241-foot-long, 100-foot-wide,asphalt runway. After a normal touchdown, the tail-wheel airplane yawed into the wind, and veered off the side of the runway. It then struck a sign and sustained damage to the propeller, landing gear and fuselage. The pilot stated he did not experience any mechanical malfunctions with the airplane. He reported 300 hours of total flight experience, which included 25 hours in the same make and model as the accident airplane. Winds reported at the airport, about 30 minutes prior to the accident, were from 160 degrees at 11 knots, gusting to 17 knots.

## Factual narrative

The pilot of the Piper J3C-65 had been practicing banner towing operations, and was landing on runway 9L, a 3,241-foot-long, 100-foot-wide,asphalt runway. After a normal touchdown, the tail-wheel airplane yawed into the wind, and veered off the side of the runway. It then struck a sign and sustained damage to the propeller, landing gear and fuselage. The pilot stated he did not experience any mechanical malfunctions with the airplane. He reported 300 hours of total flight experience, which included 25 hours in the same make and model as the accident airplane. Winds reported at the airport, about 30 minutes prior to the accident, were from 160 degrees at 11 knots, gusting to 17 knots.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N2143M](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N2143M), registered now, S/N 20928, built 1946 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: Piper J3-C65
- Registry model: [Piper J3C-65](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-j3c-65) (registry code 7100510) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-235 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-235-series) (registry code 41505, 4 cycle) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 20928
- Engines: Lycoming O-360 160 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Banner tow, Part 91
- Registered owner: Van Wagner Aerial Media LLC
- Airworthiness certificate: Special, Restricted (Special)
- Departed: HWO, Hollywood, FL
- Destination: HWO
- Airport: HWO, North Perry, runway 9L, 3,241 × 100 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 19; injuries: minor; commercial, private; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, without waivers/limitations; last flight review October 1, 2007; seat: front; flight hours: 300 total, 25 in this make and model, 200 as pilot in command, 80 in the last 90 days, 40 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 160° at 11 knots, gusting 17
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: none
- Temperature: 61 °F, dew point 52 °F
- Altimeter: 30.10 inHg
- Observed at: HWO

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20080129014319A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080129014319A), Jan 29, 2008: Piper J3C65, Hollywood, FL, Substantial damage. (-23) It appears that after landing on runway 9L, the airmen failed to maintain directional control of the aircraft during the landing phase sequence; this…

## Other investigations on N2143M (1)

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

- [NTSB MIA00LA230](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/MIA00LA230), Aug 3, 2000: Piper J3C-65 (N2143M), New Smyrna Bch., FL, substantial damage. Probable cause: the pilot's failure to maintain control of the airplane during the landing roll. Factors in this accident were; a crosswind, and the pilot lack of experience in this kind of aircraft.

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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