# NTSB NYC08CA105: Piper PA-30, N8202Y, Atlanta, GA, February 19, 2008 - Type: NTSB accident investigation - Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report - Date: February 19, 2008, 10:50 local (15:50 UTC) - Place: Atlanta, GA - Coordinates: 33.875556, -84.30194 - Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=33.8756&lon=-84.3019&mi=10 - Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping) - Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) - Highest injury: No injuries - Injuries: 2 uninjured - Status: Completed, report April 30, 2008 - Report: Approved by Office Director - Parties: FAA/FSDO - NTSB case key (mKey): 67550 - NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC08CA105 - NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/67550/pdf - Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC08CA105 ## Probable cause The pilot's failure to maintain directional control during the landing roll. ## Findings NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause. - [Performance/control parameters: directional control](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Piper PA-30, 16 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md?model=7103002), [All aircraft, 3,958 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062020/cases.md) - [Terrain](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03021000): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Not specified; cases with it: [Piper PA-30, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03021000/cases.md?model=7103002), [All aircraft, 267 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03021000/cases.md) ## Sequence of events The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened. - [Landing-landing roll: Loss of control on ground](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230) (defining event); cases with it: [Piper PA-30, 14 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md?model=7103002), [All aircraft, 4,585 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/230/sequence.md) - [Landing-landing roll: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300); cases with it: [Piper PA-30, 15 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md?model=7103002), [All aircraft, 3,643 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md) - [Landing-landing roll: Collision with terr/obj (non-CFIT) ](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470); cases with it: [Piper PA-30, 37 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md?model=7103002), [All aircraft, 10,189 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/470/sequence.md) ## Analysis The pilot reported that when he applied brakes during the landing rollout, the right brake "grabbed" and the airplane immediately began to veer to the right. The airplane continued off the right side of the runway, across a taxiway, and subsequently entered a ditch. The airplane sustained damage to the nose, landing gear, right wing, and both propellers. Postaccident examination of the airplane did not reveal any preimpact malfunctions. In addition, no flat spots or unusual wear patterns were observed on the right main landing gear tire. Winds reported at the airport, about the time of the accident, were from 230 degrees at 12 knots. ## Factual narrative The pilot of the Piper PA-30, was landing on runway 20L, a 6,001-foot-long, 100-foot-wide, concrete runway. The pilot reported that when he applied brakes during the rollout, the right brake "grabbed" and the airplane immediately began to veer to the right. The airplane continued off the right side of the runway, across a taxiway, and subsequently entered a ditch. The airplane sustained damage to the nose, landing gear, right wing, and both propellers. Postaccident examination of the airplane by a Federal Aviation Administration inspector did not reveal any preimpact malfunctions. In addition, no flat spots or unusual wear patterns were observed on the right main landing gear tire. Winds reported at the airport, about the time of the accident, were from 230 degrees at 12 knots. ## Aircraft - Registration: [N8202Y](https://openairdocs.org/deregistered/N8202Y-2013-05-14), registration cancelled 2013-05-14, S/N 30-1321, built 1966 (OpenAirDocs) - Reported make and model: Piper PA-30 - Registry model: [Piper PA-30](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-30) (registry code 7103002) (OpenAirDocs) - Registry engine: [Lycoming IO-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-io-320-series) (registry code 41509, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs) - Category: Airplane - Serial number: 1321 - Airframe hours: 4700 - Engines: Lycoming IO-320 160 horsepower reciprocating; Lycoming IO-320 160 horsepower reciprocating - Damage: Substantial damage - Flight: Personal, Part 91 - Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal - Last inspection: Annual, May 1, 2007 - Departed: 4J6, St. Marys, GA - Destination: PDK, Atlanta, GA - Flight plan: IFR - Airport: PDK, Dekalb-Peachtree, runway 20L, 6,001 × 100 ft, concrete ## Flight crew As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names. - Pilot; age 82; injuries: none; commercial; airplane ratings: single-engine land, multi-engine land; instrument ratings: airplane; medical: class 2, with waivers/limitations; last flight review April 1, 2007; seat: left; flight hours: 5,361 total, 3,460 in this make and model, 19 in the last 90 days, 4 in the last 30 days, 3 in the last 24 hours ## Weather - Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day - Wind: 230° at 12 knots - Visibility: 10 statute miles - Lowest ceiling: none - Temperature: 48 °F, dew point 27 °F - Altimeter: 30.18 inHg - Observed at: PDK ## FAA reports on this event (1) The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs). - [Accident 20080219833309A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080219833309A), Feb 19, 2008: Piper PA30, Atlanta, GA, Substantial damage. (-23) Upon landing, the a/c veered approximately 100 yards right and departed runway coming to rest in proposed drainage ditch. The left main gear and nose… From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model. --- OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.