# NTSB NYC08CA312: Cessna 177, N17142, Warwick, NY, September 11, 2008

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · No injuries · Data collection · Final report
- Date: September 11, 2008, 15:25 local (19:25 UTC)
- Place: Warwick, NY
- Coordinates: 41.287776, -74.287223 (estimated)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=41.2878&lon=-74.2872&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Landing](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/550) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Defining event: [Landing-landing roll: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300)
- Highest injury: No injuries
- Injuries: 2 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report January 22, 2009
- Report: Approved by Office Director
- Parties: FAA/FSDO
- NTSB case key (mKey): 68934
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC08CA312
- NTSB report (PDF, downloads): https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/68934/pdf
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC08CA312

## Probable cause

The pilot's failure to obtain the proper touchdown point while landing.

## Findings

NTSB's coded findings; those marked are part of the probable cause.

- [Action: incorrect action performance](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015): Personnel issues › Action/decision · Pilot (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna 177B, 5 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md?model=2073708), [All aircraft, 1,386 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/02041015/cases.md)
- [Terrain: wet/muddy terrain](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03021035): Environmental issues › Physical environment · Not specified (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna 177B, 1 case](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03021035/cases.md?model=2073708), [All aircraft, 110 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/03021035/cases.md)
- [Performance/control parameters: descent/approach/glide path](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062040): Aircraft › Aircraft oper/perf/capability · Not attained/maintained (probable cause); cases with it: [Cessna 177B, 4 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062040/cases.md?model=2073708), [All aircraft, 809 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-findings/01062040/cases.md)

## Sequence of events

The events NTSB coded, in order, by phase of flight. The defining event best describes what happened.

- [Landing: Landing area overshoot](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/380); cases with it: [Cessna 177B, 4 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/380/sequence.md?model=2073708), [All aircraft, 400 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/380/sequence.md)
- [Landing-landing roll: Runway excursion](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300) (defining event); cases with it: [Cessna 177B, 10 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md?model=2073708), [All aircraft, 3,643 cases](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-events/300/sequence.md)

## Analysis

The pilot of the Cessna 177B stated that, on approach to runway 3R, he noted that the windsock was favoring the runway, with a left crosswind approximately 15 degrees from the center of the airplane. While on a short final approach, the pilot then observed the windsock indicating no wind, but favoring a direction across the runway. The pilot continued his approach at 60 knots, with full flap extension. He flared the airplane over the first one-third of the runway, but the airplane floated and touched down between 500 to 700 feet from the end of the runway. The pilot was unable to stop the airplane on the runway. It traveled off the end of the runway and struck muddy terrain. During the impact, the left wing, including a left wing rib, sustained damage. Examination of the airplane by a Federal Aviation Administration inspector did not reveal any preimpact mechanical malfunctions, nor did the pilot report any. The reported wind at an airport located approximately 15 miles north of the accident site, about 31 minutes before the accident, was from 160 degrees at 4 knots. The reported wind at the same site about 29 minutes after the accident, was from 160 degrees at 6 knots.

## Factual narrative

The pilot of the Cessna 177B stated that he was attempting to land on runway 3R, a 2,150-foot-long, 28-foot-wide, asphalt runway. During the approach, the pilot noted that the windsock was favoring runway 3R, with a left crosswind approximately 15 degrees from the center of the airplane. While on a short final approach, the pilot then observed the windsock indicating no wind, but favoring a direction across the runway. The pilot continued his approach at 60 knots, with full flap extension. He flared the airplane over the first one-third of the runway, but the airplane floated and touched down between 500 to 700 feet from the end of the runway. The pilot was unable to stop the airplane on the runway. It traveled off the end of the runway and struck muddy terrain. During the impact, the left wing, including a left wing rib sustained damage. Examination of the airplane by a Federal Aviation Administration inspector did not reveal any preimpact mechanical malfunctions, nor did the pilot report any. The reported wind at an airport located approximately 15 miles north of the accident site, about 31 minutes before the accident, was from 160 degrees at 4 knots. The reported wind at the same site about 29 minutes after the accident was from 160 degrees at 6 knots.

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N17142](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N17142), registered now, S/N 17702507, built 1976 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: CESSNA 177 (B)
- Registry model: [Cessna 177B](https://openairdocs.org/model/cessna-177b) (registry code 2073708) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming O&VO-360 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-o-vo-360-series) (registry code 41514, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Serial number: 17702507
- Airframe hours: 4465
- Engines: LYCOMING O360 180 horsepower reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Flight: Personal, Part 91
- Operator: Morris Aero Club Inc
- Registered owner: Morris Aero Club Inc
- Airworthiness certificate: Standard, Normal
- Last inspection: Annual, June 8, 2008, 15 hours before
- Departed: MMU, Morristown, NJ
- Destination: N72, Warwick, NY
- Airport: N72, Warwick Municipal Airport, runway 03R, 2,150 × 28 ft, asphalt

## Flight crew

As NTSB recorded them. NTSB leaves out names.

- Pilot; age 67; injuries: none; private; airplane ratings: single-engine land; medical: class 3, with waivers/limitations; last flight review June 12, 2008; seat: left; flight hours: 813 total, 350 in this make and model, 721 as pilot in command, 9 in the last 90 days, 7 in the last 30 days

## Weather

- Conditions: Visual (VMC), Day
- Wind: 160° at 4 knots
- Visibility: 10 statute miles
- Lowest ceiling: 7,000 ft broken
- Temperature: 70 °F, dew point 52 °F
- Altimeter: 30.29 inHg
- Observed at: MGJ, 15 nm away

## FAA reports on this event (1)

The FAA's own accident and incident reports, matched to the aircraft by N-number and date (OpenAirDocs).

- [Accident 20080911849299A](https://openairdocs.org/incident/20080911849299A), Sep 11, 2008: Cessna 177B, Warwick, NY, Substantial damage. (-23) [privacy data omitted] stated he made one approach to runway 3 at the Warwick airport, he went around after determining he could not make the landing. On…

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

---
OpenAirDocs.org is an independent research project of [Contrail Labs](https://contraillabs.com/). It is not affiliated with the FAA or the NTSB. Source documents are U.S. government works in the public domain.
