# NTSB NYC72FFA23: Piper PA-28, N4269J, Lake Placid, NY, October 24, 1971

- Type: NTSB accident investigation
- Classification: Accident · Minor injuries · Closed
- Date: October 24, 1971
- Place: Lake Placid, NY · LAKE PLACID, NY
- Location: 44.2842° N, 73.9864° W: Placed by OpenAirDocs: center of Lake Placid, NY, within about 6 miles (OpenAirDocs)
- Nearby events: https://openairdocs.org/map.md?lat=44.2842&lon=-73.9864&mi=10
- Phase of flight: [Approach](https://openairdocs.org/ntsb-phases/500) (OpenAirDocs' grouping)
- Highest injury: Minor injuries
- Injuries: 1 minor, 3 uninjured
- Status: Completed, report May 22, 1972
- Report: Brief approved by the director
- NTSB case key (mKey): 164320
- NTSB case page: https://web.ntsb.gov/investigations/?ntsbnumber=NYC72FFA23
- Page: https://openairdocs.org/ntsb/NYC72FFA23

## NTSB brief

```
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 FILE    DATE          LOCATION          AIRCRAFT DATA       INJURIES       FLIGHT                        PILOT DATA
                                                               F  S M/N     PURPOSE
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3-3831  71/10/24   LAKE PLACID,NY      PIPER PA-28         CR-  0  0  1  NONCOMMERCIAL             PRIVATE, AGE 40, 133
        TIME - 1500                    N4269J              PX-  0  0  3  PLEASURE/PERSONAL TRANSP  TOTAL HOURS, 54 IN TYPE,
                                       DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL  OT-  0  0  0                            NOT INSTRUMENT RATED.
        NAME OF AIRPORT - LAKE PLACID
        DEPARTURE POINT             INTENDED DESTINATION
          BURLINGTON,VT               LAKE PLACID,NY
        TYPE OF ACCIDENT                                         PHASE OF OPERATION
           UNDERSHOOT                                               LANDING: FINAL APPROACH
           GEAR COLLAPSED                                           LANDING: ROLL
        PROBABLE CAUSE(S)
           PILOT IN COMMAND - MISJUDGED DISTANCE AND ALTITUDE
        FACTOR(S)
           WEATHER - DOWNDRAFT,UPDRAFTS
           MISCELLANEOUS ACTS,CONDITIONS - OVERLOAD FAILURE
        WEATHER BRIEFING - BRIEFED BY WEATHER BUREAU PERSONNEL, IN PERSON
        WEATHER FORECAST - FORECAST SUBSTANTIALLY CORRECT
        SKY CONDITION                                            CEILING AT ACCIDENT SITE
          CLEAR                                                    UNLIMITED
        VISIBILITY AT ACCIDENT SITE                              PRECIPITATION AT ACCIDENT SITE
          5 OR OVER(UNLIMITED)                                     NONE
        OBSTRUCTIONS TO VISION AT ACCIDENT SITE                  WIND DIRECTION-DEGREES
          HAZE                                                     180
        WIND VELOCITY-KNOTS                                      TYPE OF WEATHER CONDITIONS
           10                                                      VFR
        TYPE OF FLIGHT PLAN
          NONE
        REMARKS- LND 17 FT SHORT OF RWY. PLT STATED HE ENCOUNTERED DOWNDRAFT.
```

## Aircraft

- Registration: [N4269J](https://openairdocs.org/aircraft/N4269J), registered now, S/N 28-22628, built 1967 (OpenAirDocs)
- Reported make and model: PIPER PA-28
- Registry model: [Piper PA-28-140](https://openairdocs.org/model/piper-pa-28-140) (registry code 7102802) (OpenAirDocs)
- Registry engine: [Lycoming 0-320 series](https://openairdocs.org/engine/lycoming-0-320-series) (registry code 41508, reciprocating) (OpenAirDocs)
- Category: Airplane
- Engines: reciprocating
- Damage: Substantial damage
- Airport: Lake Placid

From the NTSB's public API. Aircraft are matched to registry aircraft by N-number and event date, checked against the reported serial number, make and model; the registry's history has gaps, so older matches can be wrong. Compare the reported make and model.

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